mauser bolt out of the gun for long periods of time. Or storage of the gun. Help?

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So, trying to lock the gun up without it having to be in a locked cabinet.

According to the RCMP firearms page, a bolt action rifle can be legally stored as long as the bolt is removed. However, the bolt cocks upon removal. So, whenever the rifle is not in the bush or at the range, the firing pin spring will be compressed. I do not like that. 70+ year old parts, respect etc.

Short of taking the bolt apart each time, what do I do? What do you do?

even using a cable lock, I still have to #### the bolt to get it partially open to insert the cable lock thru the action. Even with the floor plate off.

Thank you. I know you all do this all the time, pardon my rookieness.
 
If you're that worried why not just use a trigger lock? Or disassemble the bolt to releive the pressure? It only take 10 seconds to take the bolt apat on my Turk Mauser and zero tools.
 
If it is an all matching rifle including the bolt, keep it in the rifle, otherwise it can get lost and then become mismatched many years down the road for various reasons - old age, death, alzheimers, etc.
 
if you decock a mauser bolt when its out of the rifle its a huge pain to recock.


and to answer above post, by flipping the safety over to the left from the straight up position.
 
Spinal said:
if you decock a mauser bolt when its out of the rifle its a huge pain to recock.


and to answer above post, by flipping the safety over to the left from the straight up position.
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Remind me never to do that!! lol

I store my guns in a safe, with the bolts remove and put into anther safe. Figure if some POS ever steals my guns he"ll have nothing more then some fancy sticks as they aren't much good without the bolts!!
 
yea, a trigger lock will work, but its easy to make the trigger fire with the lock in place. On my pistol, it can't move backwards, but on these with lots of room around the trigger guard, its kind of a joke.

I bought a coulple of lockable cases for transport, and I guess I will just do that for now.

I would like to be able to remove the bolts, but that seems like a problem for a long term solution. I may take the bolt apart on the Mauser, as, yes it can be done farily easily. Not sure how to do so on the other(JW25a in .22lr mauser copy)
 
I think the easiest thing for you to do would be to simply purchase a slimmer trigger lock which allows you to slide the bar behind the trigger opposed to in front of it.

In regards to taking the bolt out/apart I'm going to side with Coyote Ugly on this one - there's no need to do that... But if you really really want to, instead of simply removing it and leaving it cocked I'd take the entire bolt apart, clean it, lightly oil it and keep the components in a very safe place (because you wouldn't want to lose any original parts). If you don't know how to take a mauser bolt apart youtube is your friend :) But as Spinal pointed out if you simply decock once it's out of the rifle you're going to have a hell of a time re-assembling it.
 
Tinman204 said:
Remind me never to do that!! lol

I store my guns in a safe, with the bolts remove and put into anther safe. Figure if some POS ever steals my guns he"ll have nothing more then some fancy sticks as they aren't much good without the bolts!!
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That sounds like way too much work. Lol

Yes, if decocked they can be a pain to recock.

Also, don't separate the bolts. I've read of countless guys buying rifles with a odd bolt or no bolt, story is always the same. I took it out years ago and lost/forgot about it.

Are you in danger of some one actually loading one of your guns and then actively circumventing the trigger lock to discharge??

I'd trigger lock or zip tine and be done with it.
 
nothing better than buying an old tool box of mixed tools at the flea market . then finding a k98 bolt and bayonet in the bottom. $30.00 well spent
 
Now that I've read all of this why not just buy a better trigger lock?

To the OP are you concerned with the safety of a trigger lock? Do you loose keys( I've done it not fun on shooting day), or are you just strapped for room so you can fit a small safe or locking case in your home? A trigger lock is a deterrent at best, safe's unless super heavy and pricey can be stolen, broken into and even cable locks can be cut.

For what it's worth I've stored my Mauser bolt cocked since I got it and have never had a problem. For long term storage I would buy a good gun case, remove and disassemble the bolt and put both it and your trigger locked gun in and put it somewhere in the basement and be done!
 
You can leave the bolt decocked in the rifle. Open the action, hold trigger down, close action, let go of trigger, done. I store mine like that inside a locked pelican case with a desiccant pack.
 
Leave the bolt cocked. Springs wear out from compression/extension cycles, not remaining compressed.
 
thanx for all the advice and help.

The centerfire I will either pull the bolt and take it apart, or leave it in and pull the trigger, then put it in a locked case.

the rimfire I will either pull the bolt or put a snapcap in and pull the trigger. It also has another case it can be locked in.
 
The German cleaning kit for the K98 has a cocking and decocking tool in it.
The tool is the one that looks like a bottle opener.
You use the open section on the bottom of the cocking sleeve, pull back and rotate out of the cocked position.
Do the opposite action to recock.
 
What kind of rifle is that where the bolt cocks when removed? I'm only really familiar with Mauser & Mosin type bolt actions which are opposite of what you are describing... but if you hold the trigger down when removing the bolt, does it still ####?

Also if it is a milsurp/Mauser you are describing - don't be at all concerned about the spring being compressed for long periods of time. It will be absolutely fine.
 
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