BNZ 45 Mauser markings.

[JTF#]

I got a mauser today off the EE from a good member and I tor it down and found some markings under the barrel. I know the rune but the other makings EK and a shield with something in it. does anyone know what they mean?





thanks
Trevor

 

[samsplacci71]

Post up some pics as they would help us identify what you have.

 

[JTF#]

I did put a pic up is it not showing?

 

[jbmauser]

The letters and shield are just the barrel lot and maker. Not sure if that other mark is actually a "rune".

 

[samsplacci71]

I did put a pic up is it not showing?

I don't even see an icon to say there is no image. No worries.

 

[CanadianAR]

Barrel code.


Could be a left over SS barrel, but I dont think there are an "SS" guns in 45.

 

[JTF#]

the serials don't match on the barrel and receiver. it was a former Israeli gun so most parts do not match. they ground off the waffen amps on the top of the gun but I am so happy they missed the most important one. the amp that is left on the bottom of the barrel is to hard to read the number so I cant get an idea of date. just the EK.

 

[jbmauser]

How about a close up of the shield. I really can't make out the letter code inside it. dot, bnz, byf, and others used a shield.

 

[CanadianAR]

Looks like bnz when I blow it up, but b and z are distorted.

 

[JTF#]

yep its a bnz in the shield

 

[jbmauser]

Ah! I suspected it had to be but couldn't quite make it out. You said the barrel didn't match the receiver serial so I wasn't 100% sure.

 

[Claven2]

I believe it's a 1941-produced BNZ barrel.

 

[CanadianAR]

I dont know. the machining looks pretty rough for 41.

 

[JTF#]

i'm not sure it would be that early. the barrel is like new inside and out. the rear sight is pitted and for sure does not match the barrel but it is stamped. i'm not sure that would help with the date of the barrel also the front sight is stamped with a different number Amt 77 I think is a Poland stamp?(I have amt 77 on a radom pistol) i'll try and get some pics of the actual amt stamp on the barrel but like I said you cant really see the numbers. you guys might have a better idea though.

 

[CanadianAR]

Waa77 was from the radom plant, but tons of unused parts ended up going to steyr.

Please post pics of all markings and all parts attached to barrel.

 

[JTF#]

hello

first here is the barrel mark like I said you cant really see it. and the rear sight band. the band does look like it matchs the barrel from condition and it looks like it says amt 323.

 

[CanadianAR]

623 is steyrs waa code, so the sight base is correct.

 

[Claven2]

To me the shield looks like bnz over one, which would indicate 1941. Maybe it's an ss contract bbl, they were rougher than whermacht production.

 

[5440fight]

I always thought that the Israeli mausers were re-barreled for 7.62 use? Did they leave them in the original caliber as well? Neato.

 

[JTF#]

yes its for sure ss. the first pic I put up showed the rune. some people said they cant see the pic though. you can kind of see it on the barrel pic there on the bottom. yes the first guns the Israelis got were in 8mm and then converted in I think 1951? i found this one on the EE. he has another for sale you can check if he still has it.