what i did was, put 2 followers back to back (chop the anti tilt legs off of one, zip tie them together by the spring loop) put rounds in(about 18-20 or so, i dont remember exact.) then put normal follower and spring to push everything up and close the base cap. still feeds 5 tho it holds but doesnt feed more than 5.
how is this for canadian legal window Pmag?
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what i did was, put 2 followers back to back (chop the anti tilt legs off of one, zip tie them together by the spring loop) put rounds in(about 18-20 or so, i dont remember exact.) then put normal follower and spring to push everything up and close the base cap. still feeds 5 tho it holds but doesnt feed more than 5.
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Um, a prohibited device...? Pretty sure zip ties and variable capacity limiters don't fall under the "permanent" aspect of modification. You kept the rivet in-place, right? Apparently some things don't change.
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ILLEGAL! our Law states NO modifications period. but i am not a lawyer
installing a rivet is a modification....
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Adding an anti-tilt follower is a modification
what i did does not change the functionality of the mag. still holds 5 rounds and its pined. the rounds at the bottom also acts as magazine block too.(ive owned mags that are blocked with a glue base plate, not sure if there is changes of the law prohibiting that method of round capping. ). last i check its not illegal to have parts of magazines dissembled (unpin) as long as it doesnt functions as ammunition feeding device. also im adding stuff on the non feeding end of the mag. and if you want to get technical of "holding" then we all have illegal mags.
a definite yes or no would be great. i think guys running 13 rounds of 9mm in glock .40 mags or 14 rounds of 223 in a 50 beowolf would have issues before this 5 round P mags does.
a definite yes or no would be great. i think guys running 13 rounds of 9mm in glock .40 mags or 14 rounds of 223 in a 50 beowolf would have issues before this 5 round P mags does.
Wrong again.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/PDF/SOR-98-462.pdf
Page 16, para 4. Nothing mentioned about making modifications.
You guys really need to stop making up laws.
It took less than a 5 minute conversation with my buddy google to find this. For gods sake do some research before you proclaim something to be law.
If you want to make up law on the fly, go work for a CFO.
Windowed PMAGs are useless in Canada, the last 13 rounds or so arent even visible due to the magwell, so not much of a point, unless they are all you can get.
You are incorrect, the. The body is the regulated part and I wouldn't be caught dead with that configuration..
Now maybe .. And I'm saying just maybe if you were to put dummy's in where the live rounds are in the mag .. And then pin above them and put the second follower in you might be alright ...
... Or you could just sell that pmag on EE for 1000 dollars and buy a non windowed one
Now maybe .. And I'm saying just maybe if you were to put dummy's in where the live rounds are in the mag .. And then pin above them and put the second follower in you might be alright ...
... Or you could just sell that pmag on EE for 1000 dollars and buy a non windowed one
You're not going to get a simple yes or no. What you've done is created a real grey area. Those mags which are legal, and holding other calibers, are far different then the modification of your mag.
First, your windowed mag shows its over capacity, functional or not. Other mags that may hold more do not. I imagine you're going to create a lot of heat for yourself with these mags.
Second, the other mags are not modified. They fulfill some aspect of the requirement of the firearms act. They are simply pinned accordingly. People will question the function of those extra rounds.
Good on you for thinking outside the box, but this project is best discussed with your CFO. I would also suggest you change your defence from outing the Beowulf and glock mags. Your only going to give them a foot hold.
They are designed/manufactured to be capable of holding 5 rounds of .223; placing them crooked doesn't change the design of the magazine; or placing 13 9mm rounds in a 10 40SW magazine also doesn't change the design.
You have effectively modified it to hold more than 5 rounds; whether the added rounds are feed-able or not; you changed the design.
Again, those are opinions, assumptions and interpretations of the laws. How it would play in front of an RCMP officer or in front of a judge is all speculation.
You have effectively modified it to hold more than 5 rounds; whether the added rounds are feed-able or not; you changed the design.
Again, those are opinions, assumptions and interpretations of the laws. How it would play in front of an RCMP officer or in front of a judge is all speculation.
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If the body is regulated then could i chop the bolt hold open off my vz58 mag making it it hold the full amout since i modified the follower and not the body. It is the bolt hold open that catches on the rivit
No. If it is possible for you to put more than 5 rounds in a rifle mag it is prohib ... Simple as that. In reality we get of easy on this ridiculous law with the current allowance of rivets. They could easily say that "rivets are not permanent" and require much more restriction on us.
Actually with what you describe when you take the mag apart it would in fact be prohib as it now holds 30 rounds
Those are practice dummy rounds my friend made. I'd rather shoot my life rounds then have it as display. As it stands the mag functions no different than a normal 5/30 P mag. I'd still need to drill out the rivot to have it reach full cap. As for disassembling the mag. I know a lot of people disassemble mags for cleaning. I thought as long as u put them together pinned or blocked when it functions you are good. Correct me on that if I'm wrong.
