lol essentially.
I really enjoyed that part "keep the firearm unloaded and encased at all times until the point when you would require it to protect yourself from an immediate threat."
Yeah.... that doesn't jive.
Bear defence...what would you do?
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lol essentially.
I really enjoyed that part "keep the firearm unloaded and encased at all times until the point when you would require it to protect yourself from an immediate threat."
Yeah.... that doesn't jive.
Dorian Gray
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
Glad i wasn't the only one to see the idiocy in that statement. LOL.
Niggles is right OP. The laws are stupid but they are what they are. I live around Timmins and any time i've ran into mnr or cops in the bush while i have a gun on me and it's not hunting season i just say i'm target praticing. Or i'm carrying my gun to an area suitible to target practice.
- Location
- Dauphin, Manitoba
So many commenters on CBC always say something like : "Why do you need a gun? Just use bear spray."
Some guys went camping up in remote Manitoba and somehow one of the guys shot his friend mistaking him for a bear, and the top rated comments were like: "Why do you need a gun on a camping trip?"
I can't help but shake my head at comments like that, but then again what do they know? If I was going into any remote area I would rather a rifle than bear spray any day.
Some guys went camping up in remote Manitoba and somehow one of the guys shot his friend mistaking him for a bear, and the top rated comments were like: "Why do you need a gun on a camping trip?"
I can't help but shake my head at comments like that, but then again what do they know? If I was going into any remote area I would rather a rifle than bear spray any day.
firearms are hardly necessary ALMOST all of the time. Bear spray has worked for me and my colleagues just fine, although when a bear gets that close it is hard to go for the spray and not for a rifle/pistol. The only time you should need a gun to defend yourself in my experience and opinion is in a situation where the bear is stalking you as prey. It is easy to tell if you are being stalked from the body language and actions of the bear. Chances are high that this will never happen to you. I have had many encounters with bears and other animals alike and have never had to use a firearm.
Just play dead.
This lady is the only one that makes any sense! She's prepared and competent. Advice to anyone who is so concerned about bears in the woods - STAY HOME! Canada is BEAR country, get used to it and take appropriate steps.
I've never been charged by a bear, but I know people who have. They said it was frightening and happened very fast. I asked what kind of gun would have been useful, and the answer was - "One in my hands!" In other words, no fumbling with loading, holster flaps, pack searches, safety mechanisms, etc.
Anyone who wants to bet his life on bear bangers and bear spray - have at 'er! Most often I'm packing my 50-70 Sharps carbine with one up the spout and 5 more on my belt. The day I need more, the bear wins.
I've never been charged by a bear, but I know people who have. They said it was frightening and happened very fast. I asked what kind of gun would have been useful, and the answer was - "One in my hands!" In other words, no fumbling with loading, holster flaps, pack searches, safety mechanisms, etc.
Anyone who wants to bet his life on bear bangers and bear spray - have at 'er! Most often I'm packing my 50-70 Sharps carbine with one up the spout and 5 more on my belt. The day I need more, the bear wins.
I bring my 12ga everywhere I go in the backcountry on canoe trips. I'm a woman, and a "senior citizen", and I travel alone (with my dog ). I have very seldom run into anybody from MNR, or CO's or OPP, or actually anybody out there, over more than 50 years of doin' this stuff. On the very rare occasions when I have run into one of 'em, not one EVER questioned why i had my gun with me, ever. Just to be on the safe side, i have always carried every possible applicable licence with me - small game, bear, deer, turkey whatever was in season, but never have been asked about those.
Ontario Hillbilly
Regular
- Location
- Parry Sound
As someone who has had go fight off a very aggressive black bear with a canoe paddle, I find it preposterous that the mnr would spout such malarkey. Bear spray is not effective, I tried it and the bear just got mad. I broke my paddle on it and had to strike it with what was left repeatedly as it continued its attack. I was lucky it was not a large boar, or I would not be here to tell the tale. I don't care if it is a provincial park, if I'm doing back country camping, the shotgun is with me, loaded with slugs.
Do these same regulations apply in BC as well? Am going into the brush like 2 hours out from Prince George area with a research team to collect some soil samples... we were told to carry some bear deterrant with our field safety kit... but I figured "bear" as in a tiny little baby black bear that'll run away when I yell at it... now people are saying things thatll "stalk" and "chase"?.... should I look into bringing a 12 ga?
http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hfd/library/documents/bib22777.htm
quote from that link
"If a grizzly bear attacks, roll into a ball on the ground protecting your face and stomach.."
http://www.for.gov.bc.ca/hfd/library/documents/bib22777.htm
quote from that link
"If a grizzly bear attacks, roll into a ball on the ground protecting your face and stomach.."
Ontario Hillbilly
Regular
- Location
- Parry Sound
I do not understand why ANYONE would recommend bear spray, if a bear is truly being aggressive, they spray will only make things worse. A fox 40 whistle would serve you better, as will a good hiking stick. Capsaicin sprays are garbage
I spend a lot of time in the woods during small games seasons. I have countless bear encounters and never had to fire at one.
You want to dramatically reduce your chance of face to face meeting with a bear - Try this
And when you do... There is a lot of eco friendly devices that does the job.
Good site for more info
http://srd.alberta.ca/RecreationPublicUse/AlbertaBearSmart/BearDeterrents/Default.aspx
You want to dramatically reduce your chance of face to face meeting with a bear - Try this
And when you do... There is a lot of eco friendly devices that does the job.
Good site for more info
http://srd.alberta.ca/RecreationPublicUse/AlbertaBearSmart/BearDeterrents/Default.aspx
Have you ever tried bear spray? I suspect not. Of course the bear will be p!ssed at you but he will also be blinded and disabled for a while and once back in business he will not want anything to do with you. Trust me, this is not the typical carry in your purse little salt and pepper salad seasoning device.
I would actually recommend you to run away after you spray. Not because of the bear but because of any chance to get whatever pepper mist left in the air that the wind can turn back at you.
As for the poor bear, its heavy fur will carry the pepper for a while and will keep deliver a devastating effects in the eyes, nostrils and lungs.
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Same old bs story... If I am in immediate need to defend my life, I certainly will not have time to un-encase, and load my firearm...
Then I found this...
http://www.ballistics101.com/camping.php
The part that made me chuckle: "Alternatively, 97% of bears are stopped with a 9oz. can of bear spray. Yep I said it, bear spray. Comparing the percentages, a firearm should actually be carried as a second line of defense should the bear spray prove ineffective. Funny thing about this fact is that people act really strange when they hear this. Some will swear up and down that this can not be true, as any handgun is far better than pepper spray. These Bear Jedi's watch far to much television and think that a handgun is a death ray."
http://www.ballistics101.com/camping.php
The part that made me chuckle: "Alternatively, 97% of bears are stopped with a 9oz. can of bear spray. Yep I said it, bear spray. Comparing the percentages, a firearm should actually be carried as a second line of defense should the bear spray prove ineffective. Funny thing about this fact is that people act really strange when they hear this. Some will swear up and down that this can not be true, as any handgun is far better than pepper spray. These Bear Jedi's watch far to much television and think that a handgun is a death ray."
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I spend a lot of time in the woods during small games seasons. I have countless bear encounters and never had to fire at one.
You want to dramatically reduce your chance of face to face meeting with a bear - Try this
And when you do... There is a lot of eco friendly devices that does the job.
Good site for more info
http://srd.alberta.ca/RecreationPublicUse/AlbertaBearSmart/BearDeterrents/Default.aspx
^All this stuff is the only option for parks and suchlike areas IMO.
Shotgun slugs are way more compact and with a two barreled shotgun, are already at my fingertips while hunting.
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- Lac Pelletier Sask
That's because their idea of camping is opening the trunk of the car and buying the firewood when the truck drives around the camp grounds,,
I've done a number of group wilderness canoe trips, in the centre of camp, two shovels, two axes, two 5lbs. fire extinguishers, a flair gun, bear bangers, two cans of bear spray,, and my pump action 12g right beside me
Brutus
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
^No!Then I found this...
http://www.ballistics101.com/camping.php
The part that made me chuckle: "Alternatively, 97% of bears are stopped with a 9oz. can of bear spray. Yep I said it, bear spray. Comparing the percentages, a firearm should actually be carried as a second line of defense should the bear spray prove ineffective. Funny thing about this fact is that people act really strange when they hear this. Some will swear up and down that this can not be true, as any handgun is far better than pepper spray. These Bear Jedi's watch far to much television and think that a handgun is a death ray."
This is a close range death ray:
