Leupold or Vortex Binos- which ones?

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I am looking at purchasing either the Leupold BX-3 Mojave 12x50mm Roof or the Viper HD 15x50 Roof Prism Binocular.
I already have a great set of Bushnell Discoverers in 10x40. What I am looking for is a higher power bino (in my price range $6-800 ish) to use elk and mule deer hunting to check for legal points on antlers.

Just wondering if any of you have used said binos and what you think of them and how is their warranty?

Thank you in advance.
 
Just my thoughts but unless you plan on using these off of a tripod you will be very disappointed. Binos over 10x are extremely difficult to hold steady and can cause great eye fatigue.
 
I'd agree with Sheephunter.

That being said: some guys can handle 12x and 15x if you've got surgeon's hands. The guys that do, love them.

I know a few guys in Germany who only ever hunted with fixed 12x scopes and fixed 12x binos.

Personally I would buy the Viper HD 10x42 or a Razor 10x42 if you're feeling spendy.

If Leupold still did a good Gold Ring bino for under $1000 I'd be reccomending that too. Pre-2010 they made a great switch power gold ring bino that used some stellar japanese glass. 7x for scanning, then flick a magnifier up to 12x.

But they discontinued the whole Gold Ring line last I heard, which is a shame.

The Viper HD is a really solid set of binos for your money. Their warranty is unbeatable, and the glass is solid.

Plus they have some really good design principles (locking diopter ring, proper objective covers)
 
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I picked up a sweet pair of Leitz 10x40 Trinovids from a friend at work. These are legacy binos, not a current production pair.
Super small and light, and they have a true 122m wide view at 1000.
I find you can use these for a long time without eye fatigue. Very clear and contrasty optics considering they are 40+ years old!
They don't have the benefit of all the new multicoatings, etc, but the glass is excellent, as you would expect from Leitz.... and being the old Uppendahl design, they are quite compact.
I see them on ebay for 7 - 800$ frequently.
I did not pay anywhere near that for my 10x40's from my friend.... but I did pay close to that for another pair of trinovids (8x32) in mint condition. I love them!

One caveat: the old Leitz binos are not fully waterproof. They can take quite a splashing, but not true waterproof.
There is a set of rubber armoured Leitz 10x40 on ebay right now that are waterproof, 800$.
 
I have the Vortex Viper HD 10x40's. Had them two years now and have been very pleased with them. Very clear and crisp. I have never thought of getting anything more power full because as stated above the higher magnifications are hard to hold still off hand. Anyways you would not be disappointed with the Vortex.
 
go for the viper hds. I haven't used those exact ones but when I dropped my vortex binos and bent the frame, vortex was great to deal with. The repaired them and sent them back to me within 3 weeks.
 
Just put out the money and buy a Swarovski, Leica or IOR Valdada.

That way you will never have to buy another set in your lifetime. Unless of course they get stolen, lost or damaged, which binos frequently do.

As mentioned, stick with 10X or less.

If you need more, buy an accompanying spotting scope.

Something else, not all glass is created equal. Even the same model, from the same company. There are always slight differences.

If you can, look at several different models and several of each model. Not always easy.

Take them to a window or ask the vendor to accompany you outside to view them. If possible, buy them late in the year or very early spring, so you can check them out under low light conditions.

I have a nice set of 10X Swarovskis. They were a Christmas present and I am paranoid about damaging them.

I already had a pair of Tasco Extreme Elites. When I purchased them, I had the opportunity to pick through a dozen they had in stock and compare them to Leicas and Swarovskis. In all honesty, the Tasco glasses were every bit as sharp, clear and with the rare earth coatings, gathered light beyond legal shootable limits.

I have had the opportunity to compare them to 3 different models of IOR Valdada binos and the IORs, actually gather light better. It must be the Schott glass and the coatings they are covered with. It might also be that IOR manufactures some models of Leica and other high end glass.

Whatever, don't just buy the first pair of binos behind the counter. Often as not, the vendors will gripe or refuse to allow you to compare one pair to another. Walk away. There are other vendors.

A vendor in Kamloops refused to let me look through the new in wrap pair he had. He would only allow me to look through the display pair. The display pair were excellent. I walked anyway. There was another fellow in there as well and he bought the unwrapped, new in box pair. Needless to say he was disappointed. They were finicky and difficult to balance focus from side to side. They also wouldn't focus well at distances over 500 meters. He ended up sending them back for warranty work and it was close to a year before they came back. Admittedly, they were excellent after repair. These were high end binos. Over $2000.

When it comes to binos, it pays to be extremely fussy.

Same goes for rifle scopes.

I have bought several scopes of the EE and sold them at the next gun show for a loss. Unless someone insists that they are good, because they are a good name brand, I will tell them why the price is better than reasonable and that they should be returned for warranty work.
 
I agree with bearrhunter on Swarovskis and Leica Etc.

But for a slightly lower price tag and the same European quality I would opt for Meopta. Awesome quality and clarity and fully transferable warranty.

Also they are built like a tank with the hunter in mind. They not birding binos. The inside is Aluminum body, which makes them a bit heavier. But you can drrop them and not damage them.
 
I agree with bearrhunter on Swarovskis and Leica Etc.

But for a slightly lower price tag and the same European quality I would opt for Meopta. Awesome quality and clarity and fully transferable warranty.

Also they are built like a tank with the hunter in mind. They not birding binos. The inside is Aluminum body, which makes them a bit heavier. But you can drrop them and not damage them.

Are they widely available?
 
I'm in the market for a set of 10x binos as well. Optical quality is paramount and I'm looking to spend $1k. The Vortex Viper or Razors sound like they are the best bet at this price range. Sorry for the hi-jack but please keep the suggestions coming on what else within the price range might be a good bet. I'd love Swaro's but they are out of this price range.
 
I remember looking through a pair of IOR binoculars for the first time at a show in the USA. I was blown away by the optical quality and light gathering power.

It was not long before I purchased a used set of IOR 8 X 40 binoculars in Canada. The "used" part did not bother me because you don't wear out optics by looking through them. I could not be happier with them.

Buy quality optics and you can look through them for hours with no eye fatigue. Cheap binoculars will suck the eyes out of your head in 15 minutes.

I would recommend 10 power as MAXIMUM. Usually 7 or 8 will get the job done and be much more steady.

Cheers!

B
 
I'm in the market for a set of 10x binos as well. Optical quality is paramount and I'm looking to spend $1k. The Vortex Viper or Razors sound like they are the best bet at this price range. Sorry for the hi-jack but please keep the suggestions coming on what else within the price range might be a good bet. I'd love Swaro's but they are out of this price range.

Any particular reason you're set on 10x? I've used a pair of 8x30 Swarovskis for about 15 years now and love them. I've never felt the need for more magnification, they're much handier to carry around, and the only real handicap is that they're not the greatest performers in low light. I cringe at the thought, but if I ever have to replace them, I'd probably get another pair of 8x30's. I believe the price is in the $1000 range.
 
I haven't read the post's but , before this year I would have said Leupold hands down ... I used a friends Vortex Bino's during bear season this year and was extremely impressed. I love my Leuoplds , Ive had several pair being that I break a pair ever other year from out right punishment I put them through ... actually ran a pair over with my truck this year. After using the Vortex when I ran mine over I still bought Leupolds again.

I would try the models of both brands you like and choose the ones you like ... they are both very good, Good luck !
 
Any particular reason you're set on 10x? I've used a pair of 8x30 Swarovskis for about 15 years now and love them. I've never felt the need for more magnification, they're much handier to carry around, and the only real handicap is that they're not the greatest performers in low light. I cringe at the thought, but if I ever have to replace them, I'd probably get another pair of 8x30's. I believe the price is in the $1000 range.

Actually I'm not set on 10x. 8x might do just fine magnification wise. However I'd like a pair that can do well in low light.
 
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