The 30-30 club, are you in?
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I'm so debating picking up a marlin 336 30-30 right now. I'm also planning on buying a browning x-bolt hunter in 30-06 so just wasn't sure when I'd use the 30-30. I have a .223 for small game, a 10/22 for plinking, an sks for fun, and just wasn't sure if I bring home the 336 if I'd still want to run out for the 30-06 or not. Just keep coming back to thinking I should have a 336 in my safe though.
2 x Winchester pre-64 1894s in 30-30
1 x Winchester post-64 yellow Indian head commemorative in 30-30 with brass butt plate, receiver, barrel bands
1 x Rossi Rio Grande in 30-30
(I was going to get a Marlin 336C but the Marlin brand went down the crapper quality wise after Remington took it over)
Shoot Greenbox 170 grain Core-Lokt ammo in the 2 Winchester pre-64s and the Hornady LeveRevolution 160 grain FTX ammo in the RG.
The Commemorative has never been fired.
1 x Winchester post-64 yellow Indian head commemorative in 30-30 with brass butt plate, receiver, barrel bands
1 x Rossi Rio Grande in 30-30
(I was going to get a Marlin 336C but the Marlin brand went down the crapper quality wise after Remington took it over)
Shoot Greenbox 170 grain Core-Lokt ammo in the 2 Winchester pre-64s and the Hornady LeveRevolution 160 grain FTX ammo in the RG.
The Commemorative has never been fired.
Yes, I have easily owned over a couple dozen over the years.... including the elusive Rem 788 bolt rifle in .30-30 Win....
Currently have about 5, all Win '94's of one description or another [including a pre 64 carbine and RB rifle]........................
The only kind of .30-30 lever I see myself getting next would be a Marlin 336 type that I can scope.
I have a Marlin 336 R.C. that I got at this years gun show in Kamloops... Bought it so cheap that I almost felt like I stole it from the guy.. .didn't even haggle on the price. Not a hunter, just a plinker, but I have put half a box thru it... nice little gun
Fixed it for you.. looks like you're outnumbered in this thread.....
I would lay money on the outcome of two targets.
One being the 1894 verses the 336.
Pick your best shooters here on this forum.
Now not to taint the shooting, the shooters flavour would
have to shoot just that.
Oh, Gatehouse, yer arse ain't required on this one.......
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The Marlin would best the Winchester............dibs anyone?
One being the 1894 verses the 336.
Pick your best shooters here on this forum.
Now not to taint the shooting, the shooters flavour would
have to shoot just that.
Oh, Gatehouse, yer arse ain't required on this one.......
...The Marlin would best the Winchester............dibs anyone?
So Kamlooky if i was to get one, how about those new production 336, are they good to buy... JP.I would lay money on the outcome of two targets.
One being the 1894 verses the 336.
Pick your best shooters here on this forum.
Now not to taint the shooting, the shooters flavour would
have to shoot just that.
Oh, Gatehouse, yer arse ain't required on this one.......
The Marlin would best the Winchester............dibs anyone?
Not too long ago, my only levergun was a 38-55 M94.
In the past three years it has been joined by 3 - 30-30 rifles, a M94 and 2 - 336 Marlins.
I must be a little nutty, but they are "fun" guns, with the ability to do more than some seem to feel.
Regards, Eagleye.
In the past three years it has been joined by 3 - 30-30 rifles, a M94 and 2 - 336 Marlins.
I must be a little nutty, but they are "fun" guns, with the ability to do more than some seem to feel.
Regards, Eagleye.
I jest you're teasing me?
No idea as I am of the old school.
Mauser 98's, Brno's, and so forth with the pre 64 Winchester 94's.
The old school Marlin 336's and such.
Would I trade a fine old specimen for an new school Remlington......
Nay nay.
When I wander down to Vancouver, I admire the old world trade craftsmanship.
The rock walls and fine chimney block/rock artistry.
The old trades had the pride of ownership of what their hands crafted.
Hard to find that old world pride in anything new in this time.
Quote me wrong, but old blue/wood beats new machined chit.
My opinion, but those with soldie can buy just about anything?
If they're like the Remlins I checked out in various shops in Ontario a year or so ago I wouldn't touch them with a 10' pole.
Some had crooked sights, most had lousy w/m fit, many were rough cycling and one wouldn't cycle at all, a lot of the checkering looked like it was done by a 6 year old with a claw hammer and a 8" spike.
If I wanted a 336 it would be a second hand "JM" Marlin in good shape made in the old New Haven, CT factory.
I wouldn't touch the ones stamped "REM" (Remlins).
Apparently quality control is non-existent at the Remingtons Ilion, NY factory where the Marlins have been made since the Remington takeover.
The proof of the pudding!
In the 1970s a very popular shooting competition started in Calgary, then to Salmon Arm, BC, and on to several other centres in Alberta and BC. Briefly, it was a contest designed for hunters and the calibre had to be a bullet size legal for big game in Alberta, which was 6mm. The shooting could be prone, but the rifle could not touch any artificial rest and any sight could be used, basically meaning any power of scope. There were five shots, one at each animal shaped target, ranging from 100 to 300 yards. At 100 and 150 was a running deer or antelope. The three longer range, 200, 250 and 300 yard targets were pop ups that stayed up for four seconds. When one laid down to shoot, he/she said OK and a target would appear, but the shooter would not know which target would appear.
Each plywood animal had scoring rings, with the ten ring on each being about 4 inches, or slightly less in diameter.
There were many classes, including slngle shooter, buddy event (two shooters,) parent and junior, etc.
One popular event was called the "Frontier," class. In this, the cartridge had to have been developed prior to 1900 and the event had to be shot with iron sighted lever action rifles. This boiled down to lever action to 30-30 rifles.
The picture shows three trophies I took from my cabinet to show that I won first place in the Frontier event in 1978 at Salmon Arm, in 1975 I got the trophy shown on the left for second place and the trophy on the right for second place in 1977.
I used a 1956 Winchester model 94 with a Williams Fool Proof aperture.
The father of Dark Alley Dan, on the CGN here, was always a strong competitor, using his 94 in the Frontier event. Dark Alley Dan competed in some type of junior event, but he got all google eyed over one of the cute little girl juniors from Calgary and couldn't shoot straight!
I was secretary of the Salmon Arm Club during these years and I still have the original score sheets, made by the scorers at the time of the shoots.
Going through them I see some interesting things. I notice at least three where I shot buddy in the any rifle/sights event with Eagleye, from these threads!
Damn, Eagleye, some "lucky" shooters always seemed to beat us!
Looking at the scores, it was very rare that any single shooter made a score of 40, or better, any rifle/ any sights, while the Frontier event, lever action 30-30s with iron sights, had winning scores in the lower or mid 30s! Not really that much difference.
In the 1970s a very popular shooting competition started in Calgary, then to Salmon Arm, BC, and on to several other centres in Alberta and BC. Briefly, it was a contest designed for hunters and the calibre had to be a bullet size legal for big game in Alberta, which was 6mm. The shooting could be prone, but the rifle could not touch any artificial rest and any sight could be used, basically meaning any power of scope. There were five shots, one at each animal shaped target, ranging from 100 to 300 yards. At 100 and 150 was a running deer or antelope. The three longer range, 200, 250 and 300 yard targets were pop ups that stayed up for four seconds. When one laid down to shoot, he/she said OK and a target would appear, but the shooter would not know which target would appear.
Each plywood animal had scoring rings, with the ten ring on each being about 4 inches, or slightly less in diameter.
There were many classes, including slngle shooter, buddy event (two shooters,) parent and junior, etc.
One popular event was called the "Frontier," class. In this, the cartridge had to have been developed prior to 1900 and the event had to be shot with iron sighted lever action rifles. This boiled down to lever action to 30-30 rifles.
The picture shows three trophies I took from my cabinet to show that I won first place in the Frontier event in 1978 at Salmon Arm, in 1975 I got the trophy shown on the left for second place and the trophy on the right for second place in 1977.
I used a 1956 Winchester model 94 with a Williams Fool Proof aperture.
The father of Dark Alley Dan, on the CGN here, was always a strong competitor, using his 94 in the Frontier event. Dark Alley Dan competed in some type of junior event, but he got all google eyed over one of the cute little girl juniors from Calgary and couldn't shoot straight!
I was secretary of the Salmon Arm Club during these years and I still have the original score sheets, made by the scorers at the time of the shoots.
Going through them I see some interesting things. I notice at least three where I shot buddy in the any rifle/sights event with Eagleye, from these threads!
Damn, Eagleye, some "lucky" shooters always seemed to beat us!
Looking at the scores, it was very rare that any single shooter made a score of 40, or better, any rifle/ any sights, while the Frontier event, lever action 30-30s with iron sights, had winning scores in the lower or mid 30s! Not really that much difference.
Dark Alley Dan
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Hey, 4831! I resemble that remark! 
Rifleman's Rodeo - Those were good times. We would do the circuit: Salmon Arm May long weekend, Ft. Sask in August, Rosebud later on, Ashcroft once or twice, and finally Ponoka on the Labour Day long weekend. They still shoot at Ponoka. Dad fired the first shots with his 94 at the first shoot in 1963. In 1988, I fired the first shots of the second 25 years of that shoot using the same rifle. Hard to shoot with weepy eyes.
The girls in question were the daughters of Al Mirdoch, as capable a shooter as I ever met. My lustful intentions were somewhat mitigated by that knowledge. The girls were all VERY good shots as well, and Danelle (the youngest) would regularly trounce me in the Junior ranks.
Dad and I shot Rifleman's Rodeo again in Spruce Grove a few years ago with Cat in the Hat and a few other lads. Drayton Valley has an annual shoot every August - it's the 24th this year. It's all very good fun, and excellent practice for hunting season, which was the original intention.
Dad still has that saddlering carbine 94. It's the handiest damn thing for anything that needs blasting at 100 yards or less. It's a member of the family. Dad has graciously allowed us to hold onto it after he's gone. Putting it in the box with him might be a little tricky, what with cremation and all...
Thanks for the memories!
Dan
Rifleman's Rodeo - Those were good times. We would do the circuit: Salmon Arm May long weekend, Ft. Sask in August, Rosebud later on, Ashcroft once or twice, and finally Ponoka on the Labour Day long weekend. They still shoot at Ponoka. Dad fired the first shots with his 94 at the first shoot in 1963. In 1988, I fired the first shots of the second 25 years of that shoot using the same rifle. Hard to shoot with weepy eyes.
The girls in question were the daughters of Al Mirdoch, as capable a shooter as I ever met. My lustful intentions were somewhat mitigated by that knowledge. The girls were all VERY good shots as well, and Danelle (the youngest) would regularly trounce me in the Junior ranks.
Dad and I shot Rifleman's Rodeo again in Spruce Grove a few years ago with Cat in the Hat and a few other lads. Drayton Valley has an annual shoot every August - it's the 24th this year. It's all very good fun, and excellent practice for hunting season, which was the original intention.
Dad still has that saddlering carbine 94. It's the handiest damn thing for anything that needs blasting at 100 yards or less. It's a member of the family. Dad has graciously allowed us to hold onto it after he's gone. Putting it in the box with him might be a little tricky, what with cremation and all...
Thanks for the memories!
Dan
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CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I found the opposite myself.I. Have owned a pre 64 and currently own a late 70's marlin 336 texan.To me,the marlin is a nicer rifle.Matter of preference i guess.The Winchester pre-64 94 is better than any Marlin ever made.
It's common knowledge.
I think it's written in the bible somewhere.
