IPDA Revolver Class - Newbie needs info

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Hello,
Pls school me on the Good, Bad, and Ugly about IPDA Revolver Class.

I'm mostly interested in what hardware you're using:

1. Revolver make and caliber. Stainless vs Blue
2. Type of speed loader and holders (e.g. Safariland 333 Competition)
3. Holster (leather vs polymer) and Belt.
4. And anything else I might need.

There's so much in Google...just wondering what works for YOU.
Pics would be great!

Thanks.
 
I've been having a lot of fun over the past year in SSR. Of course it's more for my own fun since I'm the only guy in the club that regularly shoots revolver for these matches. The odd visitor brings one in. So you'd best be willing to be the "black sheep" in the herd for much of the time.

I'm a big fan of the S&W K frames. So it was a slam dunk deal when I ran across a Model 66 that had been converted to Restricted by extending the barrel and sleeving the bore. The addition on the muzzle extends out a little from the sight base so I affectionately refer to it as Pinnochio :D It came to me with Hogue rubber grips which work well when the hands get sweaty in summer time matches. It had been given an action job that was just a trifle enthusiastic since it tended towards light strikes. I fixed it by inserting the cup of a spent primer over the tensioning screw as it appeared to have been shortened to lighten the spring.

Holster for now is a modified ex-police Safariland model that has the retention straps cut off and a filler added to the belt loops to work better with the max 1.5 inch belt width allowed by our rules. It's not optimum but it's not far off. Mostly it holds the gun a touch too far off the body to fit the spirit of the rules. But thanks to the spare tire I've got it fits the letter of the rules.

For pouches I'm using the Safariland ex police/guard flip over ones that have had the flap cut away and I've formed the leather by wetting and pulling in to act as springy side ears to hold the speed loaders with enough tension that I can turn them over and the loaded loaders don't fall out with anything less than a mild shake.

The loaders are Comp II's as I was able to source a bunch of, you guessed it, ex-police/guard loaders for cheap from Tradex. But Comp III's would certainly be nice later on if I get more serious.
 
BCRider...I can always count on you for info when in comes to revolvers! I know there are a few more Revolver Guys out there with thoughts....
Yes, its nice to be different some times or as you put it "the black sheep"

BTW...I have a Ruger Redhawk 4.2" 44mag but I think it's too much revolver and the cost of ammo would hurt(I don't reload).
So I'm thinking about a 357/38spl 4.2" Smith or GP100
 
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I've been having a lot of fun over the past year in SSR. Of course it's more for my own fun since I'm the only guy in the club that regularly shoots revolver for these matches. The odd visitor brings one in. So you'd best be willing to be the "black sheep" in the herd for much of the time....

I've tagged this for interest as I might eventually get into IDPA (like I "might" get my house finished) and have wondered about using a revolver as opposed to my SR9 or 1911. My only K-frame is a 6" Model 14 Target, however I also have a 625 which is easy to load with moon clips. I am impatiently awaiting a set of Ahrens Combat Retro Grips for it, too.

:)
 
That Redhawk wouldn't be a bad option if you reloaded already. Perhaps this is the time to start?

Bullet cost comes down to basically how many you can fit into a given weight. A buddy and I buy cast lead bullets for our cowboy shooting. We pay about the same amount per lb of the processed lead we get. But of course I get more bullets to the lb with my .130gn .357 size pills than he does with his 200gn .452 sized bullets that he loads into his .45Colt cases. So his cost per shot is up around 23 cents while mine is down around 17 cents. Bullets for the .44Mag are on par with the same weight bullets for .45Colt or .45ACP.
 
I use a gp100 4.2 inch stainess......why well because my first handgun was a 6 inch gp. I made a trade recently for the short one and am happy enough with it i sold the 6 inch. I have a soft spot for blued guns but this one was available.

Speedloaders i use HKS because i got a bunch for free and used them for ppc then bought a bunch more although i see a lot of other shooters use safariland comp 2 and 3. You really only need 3 of them but i have 10, like i said i do ppc too.

Holster i made myself using crazy carpet material and a heat gun after seening the prices of kydex ones. Belt is a standard leather belt with double row of holes. My speedloader holders are ex police leather ones i got a few years back in london, on

You will also need a loading tray mine was made buy a fellow years back at the club and im not too sure where to look for one.
Other than that the only other thing i have is thick skin you will get a few cracks here since there aren't many ssr shooters but its a lot of fun.
 
Thanks for the info guys!
I'm leaning towards a Ruger gp100 4.2", some HKS speed loaders, Safariland competition 3 holder, and a polymer holster mounted on a thick duty belt.
May have to post a WTB/WTT in the near future with the 4.2" Redhawk as trade bait (hint hint).
 
John take a look at Jetloaders rather than the Safariland Comp 111's. I have them both but prefer the Jetloaders by far.

Your belt for IDPA can only be 1.75" wide and no thicker tham 5/16th". As of Oct. 1 our Military/LEO exemption will be limited to club shoots only. Check out the rules regarding how many speed loaders you will be allowed to carry and where they must be placed before buying your holders. The three holder is not legal for IDPA. You need one double and a single or three singles. The are on the belt either two n front of the holster and one behind the holster or two in front of the holster and one on the opposite or weak side. The new rule book takes effect Oct. 1.

Take Care

Bib
 
How serious/competitive do you want to be, and are you looking at Stock Service Revolver (SSR) or Enhanced Service Revolver (ESR)? My interest is SSR, so I can't help you beyond that, other than to say you might as well pick up a S&W 625 and be done with it.

Here's my stuff:

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I use a S&W 686 4.2". I've also used a S&W Model 10 on occasion but prefer the beef of the 686, the extra front weight helps me point it. I sort of oversteer the M10, but the M10 has a better trigger. Any of the old S&W revolvers are a good investment and if you don't already have a gun, I highly recommend picking up an used older S&W revolver. If you don't care about shooting .357, Model 10s, 14s and 15s can be found for excellent prices and are amazing guns.

For ammo, I shoot 158gr copper-plated flat noses with 3.4gr of Bullseye behind them. I find it shoots to point of aim with good accuracy at typical IDPA distances, has minimal muzzle flash and almost no recoil. The profile of the bullet also makes speedloaders easier to use. I'm tinkering with downloading it even further but haven't really settled on anything yet; taking it down to 3.0gr almost makes it kick too little and it feels kind of weird.

I tried some lead HBWCs that I use for 'accuracy' loads in Bullseye-type shooting and they gum up the speedloading process. Even though they're the most accurate thing to shoot the time losses aren't worth it.

The speedloaders are Safariland Comp IIIs. I use IIs with the M10. The IIIs are so much better, way faster to insert and more positive ejection of cases into the cylinder. The Comp IIs aren't bad but if you have a competitive bone in your body you will likely look for Comp IIIs in no time. I carry the fourth one in my concealment garment and use it to load before the stage.

The speedloaders are in North Mountain IDPA Speedloader Holders. I bought them from Dillion Precision.

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I've never seen anybody else using these, not like I've seen a lot of revolver shooters in IDPA but you get the idea. Anyway, they're awesome. Open-top means no fumbling with snaps, the loaders come out super slick and are well-retained (I fell on a stage and they all stayed on my belt!). The back has a clasp that lets you snap 'em on and off the belt easily. They are expensive but I love 'em.

The holster is a Blade-Tech 5" 686 holster, nothing fancy. It does what it's supposed to do.

The belt in the picture is an inner duty belt from my job but I also use the inside of a CR Speedbelt sometimes (it's being used for my CZ75 right now). The CR belt is better but I'm kind of lazy and get annoyed by switching the equipment back and fourth off the belts so the 686 got the Uncle Mike's inner belt. It's perfectly functional. Make sure your belt is plenty stiff and won't let your gear wobble around on your waist, it can cause you to miss a speedloader in a stressful moment.

As far as anything else you might need, I strongly recommend getting into reloading if you're going to shoot these matches with any frequency, you'll recoup the cost in savings pretty quickly. Also, a loading tray for your speedloaders can be handy, but not all clubs have space to leave it laid out, so make sure it's ok before you pick one up.
 
i shoot a couple of revolvers on and off

625 5" can't beat 45 moon clips for a fast reload. . I use shoot-a-moon clip holders from brownells, but there's better options out there

4" 66 compIII loaders.

5" 686 pro, moon clips....

5" 627, moonclips and shoot a moon clip holders

blade tech holsters for everything. they work great, last forever adn they don't break the bank.
 
DrSpaceJam....you setup is pretty much what I'm looking for. I'm planning to test the waters so not too serious at this point in time. SSR is the way I'm going.
I've considered a 625 but they're pretty rare. The only one I have access to (sometimes) is my buddy's and he's not letting it go anytime soon.

Thanks all! Time to do some shopping.
 
DrSpaceJam....you setup is pretty much what I'm looking for. I'm planning to test the waters so not too serious at this point in time. SSR is the way I'm going.
I've considered a 625 but they're pretty rare. The only one I have access to (sometimes) is my buddy's and he's not letting it go anytime soon.

Thanks all! Time to do some shopping.

Another issue with the 625 is that you need to shoot ESR, or you need to use .45 Auto Rim in speedloaders, which pretty much mandates reloading and even then the cartridge is uncommon. While there's nothing wrong with ESR, I don't think I've ever seen anybody shooting it, and competing against nobody is kind of a buzzkill.

Also, after you shoot a few matches, I think everyone should try to do one match in their life with full-strength .357 Magnums. Sure, you will do way worse, but you will BE more awesome.

Do you have access to IPSC matches as well? I highly recommend trying both. Some elements of IDPA's rules are patently ridiculous for revolver shooters.
 
My Classifier scores weren't all that much different shooting ESR with .357 mag using speedloaders in ESR vs .38spl using speedloaders in SSR. They were higher though than my 4" 625 SS scores shot in the US. The real difference was the ache in my wrists. 90 rds of .357mag at 170pf+ was as much as I want at any one time.

Take Care

Bob
 
QUOTE=Canuck44;8986965]My Classifier scores weren't all that much different shooting ESR with .357 mag using speedloaders in ESR vs .38spl using speedloaders in SSR. They were higher though than my 4" 625 SS scores shot in the US. The real difference was the ache in my wrists. 90 rds of .357mag at 170pf+ was as much as I want at any one time.

Take Care

Bob[/QUOTE]

Girl ............... :rolleyes:

LOL
 
I use

Ruger gp100 4.2inch stainless. I only shoot .357 magnum because I figure I never shoot .38 so why practice with it

Hks speedloaders

Bladetech polymer holster and 5.11 belt
 
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