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No but being able to practice on a 500m range helps before going to NSCC.

Oh, agreed. I've edited my post to include what I was referring to. (posting in CGN on a computer rather than my phone is easier eh).

My point is, if somebody not a member of the APRA can still participate at NSCC. As for practice at distance I have no idea of what other facilities are available in AB right now but I hear talk of new ones coming.
From my understanding, the APRA occupies only their own range at Homestead right? If so, other ranges, if available, may be good to go. Possibly even military ranges if there was a organized group who could offer something of benefit to the military, like organizing and staffing matches and/or practices.

I'm not saying anything like this would be easy but it seems the APRA is a lost cause, so rather than beating that dead horse, see if there is another route to get to the goal or returning Service Conditions to Alberta.
 
Some interesting points there. We have ranges to 600m here in Wainwright. Any competitions or recreational shooting would have to be fit in around military activity, and it can get really busy here. But, I believe it is doable. I am going to start kicking the bushes, rattling some cages and banging on the drum to get SR up and running here in Wainwright. I'm also going to need some kind of idea of how much interest there will be from SK/AB/BC shooters.

MS
 
Oh, agreed. I've edited my post to include what I was referring to. (posting in CGN on a computer rather than my phone is easier eh).

My point is, if somebody not a member of the APRA can still participate at NSCC.
I believe all you have to do is to have a DCRA full or associate membership and you are good to go. AFIK you do not need to be member of a PRA to participate in NSCC competitions
 
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Some interesting points there. We have ranges to 600m here in Wainwright. Any competitions or recreational shooting would have to be fit in around military activity, and it can get really busy here. But, I believe it is doable. I am going to start kicking the bushes, rattling some cages and banging on the drum to get SR up and running here in Wainwright. I'm also going to need some kind of idea of how much interest there will be from SK/AB/BC shooters.

MS

Count me in. I only got to shoot SR for one year before this fiasco happened, but I made it to almost every match that year and loved the sport. I've now moved to Kitscoty (30 min from Wainwright), if anyone needs help trying to organize service rifle in this province please message me and certainly count me in as a shooter.
 
Where the ##### do you dig this sh!t up from? If you or any of the other Fullbore fudds ever came to a CSRA competition you'd know for fact we ran a bonafide DCRA program. We ran Service pistol, service rifle and precision rifle. I understand why you never made it out to a proper shooting competition that tests shooter ability. I can appreciate how bitter most of you would feel with your spendy belly-rigs getting your a$$es kicked by a bunch of ex-service guys with stock guns and ammo.

Not a Fullbore fudd although I did go to a few winter league matches. Their requirement to have your key activated is 4 scored matches. They want people who are serious about their discipline in their club. I see nothing wrong with that.

The Fullbore club -rather, individuals within Fullbore most certainly did have an agenda -it is bloody well documented in APRA executive minutes no less.
Um, NO! It was one individual. Not the group, not the executive as a whole, but ONE.
If you account for the APRA TREASURER you have TWO.

Yes this may be true however the CSRA failed to renew with the province and was stricken off as well as failing to fulfill it's obligation to the APRA. The Club killed itself to a large extent. I don't understand why this is so difficult for you guys to accept. Had it been run properly and dues paid it would still exist despite the efforts of any one individual.

That is not entirely correct.
The CSRA did hold meetings, and yes there were minutes taken - that is of no consequence to the APRA or anyone else outside of the CSRA. The accounting was poor, but not unheard of for a not-for-profit.
Tell me again where is the proper accounting within the APRA?!?
Why has the APRA general membership not demanded the APRA executive cough it up?
How is it that the CSRA President was able to get away with not forwarding membership dues every year to the APRA TREASURER when the APRA books needed (and were apparently) audited every year? Especially when they collect approx. $80,000 every two years from casino funds?
How is it it just so happens that the two past APRA Presidents (who the Treasurer reports to) on the committee reviewing the CSRA reinstatement for the time period in question sat on and were responsible for the outcome?
If the CSRA accounting was as bad as it was (and by all accounts it certainly appears that way) what was the APRA reporting?
What about other clubs within the APRA? - they use (or at least used) the same screwed up system of membership book issuances. Where is the auditing of those clubs? Does that mean Buffalo, smallbore, rosebud, Biathalon, Swiss club Tell also fold?
You have bought into the notion that if the bath water is dirty, you throw out the basin and baby with it. It is pure nonsense!
There is a clear explanation for all of this. Yes the CSRA president screwed up, and the entire discipline paid for it.

Yes the CSRA president did screw up. I think that's a poor analogy by the way. I'd say the baby #### in the bath water and it has to go.

I joined SR and went to two matches. I was pretty excited about continuing. It was a real disappointment to find out that it had been booted.
 
Yes the CSRA president did screw up. I think that's a poor analogy by the way. I'd say the baby #### in the bath water and it has to go.

I joined SR and went to two matches. I was pretty excited about continuing. It was a real disappointment to find out that it had been booted.

If you found it was "a real disappointment to find out that it had been booted". Why not try and do something about it? The main problem I have (and it seems like a lot share in my opinion) is why kill and entire discipline at a club? Granted there were wrong doings but get over it. The majority of members had nothing to do with it and cant change the past, yet they have been penalized going forward because of it. How many people would have joined the APRA since then but because there is no SR have gone elsewhere or not joined a club at all? If the number is even one then there is a problem. We need as many shooters on our side as possible going forward regardless of the disciplines. This whole fiasco has done nothing but hurt our cause.
 
How many people would have joined the APRA since then but because there is no SR have gone elsewhere or not joined a club at all? If the number is even one then there is a problem. We need as many shooters on our side as possible going forward regardless of the disciplines. This whole fiasco has done nothing but hurt our cause.

Unfortunately, there seems to be a pattern that is more prevalent within certain disciplines of not giving a damn about growth. There are many that don't seem to care about the growth within their own discipline, let alone other disciplines. They tend to be older and financially secure, and only care about what works best and is more convenient for them while they're still around to shoot. They don't care what happens after they're gone or what benefits their sport or all shooting sports in the long run. All that matters is that things are great for them now, while they're still here. Actually, it often seems to go beyond apathy. There are instances of new shooters going out, and if that shooter doesn't fit a certain mold or doesn't have a certain level of equipment, they're given a bad experience to ensure that they never return. Of course, the reason the new shooter didn't go back is because their equipment didn't perform well, it had nothing to do with them being treated like a leper...
 
Of course, the reason the new shooter didn't go back is because their equipment didn't perform well, it had nothing to do with them being treated like a leper...

I can relate to that. Basically that's what happened to me with one shooting discipline I tried. Service Conditions was completely the opposite. For the most part the SC community was very accommodating and willing to help out newbies so they can have fun too. Sometimes that help was in the form of "hey dummy, you're doing it wrong, do it the way I told you" but for the most part interactions with more experiences shooters have been nothing but positive, regardless of the sub-disciplines that I have participated in.
 
Unfortunately, there seems to be a pattern that is more prevalent within certain disciplines of not giving a damn about growth. There are many that don't seem to care about the growth within their own discipline, let alone other disciplines. They tend to be older and financially secure, and only care about what works best and is more convenient for them while they're still around to shoot. They don't care what happens after they're gone or what benefits their sport or all shooting sports in the long run. All that matters is that things are great for them now, while they're still here. Actually, it often seems to go beyond apathy. There are instances of new shooters going out, and if that shooter doesn't fit a certain mold or doesn't have a certain level of equipment, they're given a bad experience to ensure that they never return. Of course, the reason the new shooter didn't go back is because their equipment didn't perform well, it had nothing to do with them being treated like a leper...

WOW... it's like you have been here and done that. The enemy is within, the anti gunners are not our biggest problem.
 
I can relate to that. Basically that's what happened to me with one shooting discipline I tried. Service Conditions was completely the opposite. For the most part the SC community was very accommodating and willing to help out newbies so they can have fun too. Sometimes that help was in the form of "hey dummy, you're doing it wrong, do it the way I told you" but for the most part interactions with more experiences shooters have been nothing but positive, regardless of the sub-disciplines that I have participated in.

I never called you a dummy! Greasy civvie yes but never dummy. You shoot way better than me.

Muley stalker and I have been talking and we are both experienced shooters and are going to look at getting range time here in Sunny Wainwright to maybe run a SR competition. I have seen alot of guys interested around here, now the proof will be in when we arrrange a match who shows up. Remember MS and I are shooters and this would be our first kick at the cat running a match expect a slow go at first till we work out the bugs. We WILL have SR back here in Alberta. I am sick of going to NSCC and having my hind end handed to me by the likes of Bolivar and the 4 div PRes boys.

I also have TimK on board and he is getting me up to speed on running a match.

Kombayotch and I spoke at length tihs year and I even bent the ear of the DCRA. They are aware of the issues with the APRA and are willing to work with us to get us back into the APRA. I am just snowballing here but if we get a couple matches up and running early next year and get a core of guys willing to step up and assist MS and I we could make this work! The DCRA likes the idea of SR in Alberta. We just need to get it going. Then the belly shooters at Homestead will be forced by the DCRA to accept SR. Maybe not at Homestead but maybe here in Sunny Wainwright!

Anyone interested in helping out or coming to a match next year. please feel free to PM me or just give a shout out on here. Muleystalker and I will definitly be out shooting!
 
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