Surplus Garands from South Korea

It would be great if all those M1 Garand's ended up here in Canada. I would be down for 1 or 2 for sure. Maybe there will be op rods among those spare parts.
 
Vitus said:
I know that the Garand is in 30-06, but I heard some of them were made in .308. were they made that way or are they re-barreled that way?
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Originally they are made in .30-06. Some have been converted to .308 and you can probably find barrels and necessary parts and information to do this, but if it isn't done by someone who knows how to build a gun well, be unsurprised if it doesn't work well. I think I heard of the U.S. Navy having had some converted for ships' small arms when 7.6mmNATO replaced US .30caliber as standard.

It is unlikely that there will be .308 conversions amongst those S.Korean surplus rifles. And don't hold your breath waiting for them in any case. Anything that was military aid or licensed by the U.S. is still subject to U.S. influence, if not outright control, over its disposal so the U.S. State Dept.'s approval will be probably be needed for whatever the S.Korean government tries to do with these rifles, and the current U.S. administration is ideologically opposed to putting guns in the hands of people other than security forces loyal to the regime.
 
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We will never see them folks. Reminds me of the story of the $500.00 Corvette Stingray [that does not exist ] that a dude was shot in and they cannot get the smell out so they are sellin it fer next to nothing.And if they do ever appear the distributor will pay like $50.00 each and charge us $800.00 plus. Watch and shoot!
 
http://www.atf.gov/publications/firearms/curios-relics/update-january-2009-june-2010.html



Curios or Relics List — Update January 2009 through June 2010

Firearms automatically attain curio or relic (C&R) status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF’s C&R list. However, if your C&R item is regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA) and you desire removal from the provisions of the NFA, you must submit the firearm to the Firearms Technology Branch for evaluation and a formal classification.

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Section II — Firearms classified as curios or relics, still subject to the provisions of 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, the Gun Control Act of 1968.
Colt, Model U, experimental prototype pistol, .22 caliber semiautomatic, S/N U870001
Colt, Model U, experimental prototype pistol, .22 caliber semiautomatic, S/N U870004
Johnson, Model 1941 semiautomatic rifles, .30 caliber, all serial numbers, with the collective markings, “CAL. 30-06 SEMI-AUTO, JOHNSON AUTOMATICS, MODEL 1941, MADE IN PROVIDENCE. R.I., U.S.A., and Cranston Arms Co.” —the latter enclosed in a triangle on the receiver
Polish, Model P64 pistols, 9 x 18mm Makarov caliber, all serial numbers
Springfield Armory, M1 Garand semiautomatic rifle, .30 caliber, S/N 2502800
Walther, Model P38 semiautomatic pistols, bearing the Norwegian Army Ordnance crest on the slide, 9mm Luger caliber, S/N range 369001-370000

Section III — Firearms removed from the provisions of the National Firearms Act and classified as curios or relics, still subject to the provisions of 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44, the Gun Control Act of 1968.
Colt, New Service Revolver, .44-40 caliber, serial number 325333; with factory-fitted, smooth-bored barrel
Marlin, Model 1894, caliber 44-40, “Policias Fiscales Chile,” S/N 383384, with 15-inch barrel
Marlin, Model 1894, caliber 44-40, “Policias Fiscales Chile,” S/N 386503, with 15-inch barrel
Marlin, Model 1894, caliber 32-20, S/N 417837, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 597676, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 691600, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 941139, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 1068223, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .25-35WCF, S/N 809538, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 300531, with 14-inch barrel; receiver made in 1905, re-barreled and proofed in 1929
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 760836, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .38WCF, S/N 842706, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 820446, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 189729, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .32WCF, S/N 838080, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 885187, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 691402, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 996632, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 1021584, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 1057109, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 1076898, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 910906, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 1052902, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 889143, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 583204, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 955736, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .38WCF, S/N 970042, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 505019, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 1086164, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .25-35WCF, S/N 746707, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .38WCF, S/N 803907, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 442925, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 890323, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 869653, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 1057095, with 15-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .38WCF, S/N 681588, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 953478, with 14-inch barrel
Winchester, Model 1894, caliber .30WCF, S/N 414103, with 15-inch barrel

Section IIIA — Weapons removed from the NFA as collector’s items and removed from the GCA as antiques
Remington, Model 1871 Rolling Block Pistol, caliber .50 Remington (M71 Army) shotshell, S/N 5464, with smoothbore barrel
Winchester, 1873 short rifle, caliber .32 WCF, S/N 278459B, with 14 3/8 inch barrel
Winchester, 1892, caliber .44WCF, S/N 154322, with 15-inch barrel bearing the marking, “The Stinger”

Section IV — National Firearms Act Weapons Classified as Curios or Relics Under 18 U.S.C. Chapter 44
Auto Ordnance Corporation, Model 1928 Thompson sub-machineguns, all calibers (including .45 and .22), manufactured in the 1970s and 1980s in West Hurley, New York
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250rg said:
$499.00
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That might be what a distributor's landed cost would be on one of these Garand's, and only then if they bought a pile of them in order cost average the shipping, importation, customs fee's etc. Figure on at least a reasonable 30-35 point margin tacked on top of that, plus shipping to you, plus tax and we'll be looking at $900+ Garands.

groundskeeper willy said:
And we will need big cans of inexpensive surplus or norinco or whoever 30.06.
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Garand's have some pretty specific dietary requirements, you don't want to feed them just any 30.06 or they can fail quite spectacularly.
 
if they are like any that came out of Vietnam in the 80's some were pretty awful and some were good. A friend of mine both got an IHC, a 1953 and 1954 that are good shooters. The wood was pretty screwed up though. We had pay the outrageous price of $150. each.
 
I'd likely bite the bullet and get one the moment they hit the store(s), then speculate on waiting a few months to pick up a second one on sale - There's been some good deals lately for the common milsurps from the SKS to the SVT, K98 captures and 91/30 snipers for example.
 
I think we all need to hold a candle light vigil and pray for the Garands to come here.
As a moronic young teen I would just glance over the sub $100 Garands in the SIR flyers and scoff at them.
Oh how I overlooked and didn't even acknowledge their existence without insult. Hideously laugh at the enbloc clips like it was a circus freak.
How those Garands must have felt, treated like garbage scrap metal when everyone was gushing over the new non restricted AR15 and AK with their seductive 30 round mags, teasing you into mindless unaimed mag dumps into garbage piles at the local gravel pit.
I will make amends by adopting several when they arrive from Korea.
And keep them warm and clean and well fed.
For less than a Starbucks a day.
 
I would love one. But it entirely depends upon condition and price. Rusty, pitted, and $1000 equals no way. Clean crisp bore, tight internals, and $600 we have a deal. Somewhere in the middle there is room for consideration.
 
Moose308 said:
I would love one. But it entirely depends upon condition and price. Rusty, pitted, and $1000 equals no way. Clean crisp bore, tight internals, and $600 we have a deal. Somewhere in the middle there is room for consideration.
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Tell me Mr Moose, when have you seen rusty and pitted guns from Marstar ??
John
 
groundskeeper willy said:
I think we all need to hold a candle light vigil and pray for the Garands to come here.
As a moronic young teen I would just glance over the sub $100 Garands in the SIR flyers and scoff at them.
Oh how I overlooked and didn't even acknowledge their existence without insult. Hideously laugh at the enbloc clips like it was a circus freak.
How those Garands must have felt, treated like garbage scrap metal when everyone was gushing over the new non restricted AR15 and AK with their seductive 30 round mags, teasing you into mindless unaimed mag dumps into garbage piles at the local gravel pit.
I will make amends by adopting several when they arrive from Korea.
And keep them warm and clean and well fed.
For less than a Starbucks a day.
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Sniff... that was beautiful
 
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