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So I was at the range last weekend, shooting away with my .45 and as usual missing everything (I really need to replace those sights), and buddy starts blasting away with this shiny monstrosity and putting the bullets where he meant to! Outrageous! I thinks to meself, there must be some kind of leprechaun magic at work. So I says to the leprechaun tamer "HEY! YEAH YOUSE! WHAT'S THAT PURDY LITTLE THANG?". Once he realized I wasn't talking about his wife, he lets me fondle and/or shoot said bauble. Turns out, they make guns where the bullets go into these little WHEELS! So I says "where's the leprachaun fit in this thing?" and he's lookin' at me like maybe it was a mistake handing me a loaded revolver (fancy name!), I realize he's not understanding my redneck verbage so I just go about spending his money for him and sending it downrange. Well wouldn't you know! That little sniggly put bullets RIGHT WHERE I AIMED THEM!

So overly long and confuzzled story short, I'm waiting on my ATT to pick up my very own 6" 686 stainless. I asked at the store, and no, no leprechauns, so I set out a trap.
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I hit what I'm aiming at with my very cheap .45.... it's not likely a problem with the gun or sights (although the sights on mine are rather skimpy). The key is don't flinch, squeeze the trigger slowly, don't flinch and practice, practice, practice. I for one don't find revolvers comfortable in the hand. I think you just need to give your .45 more loving.
 
+ 1 ^^ you need to work on your .45, accept the leprachaun in it (you) and it will be generous, you will end free minding with it...
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skookumchuck said:
Vladivar, where did you get those grips? I must have some for my 28-2
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Apart from other sources, ebay. There are guys in Thailand who do beautiful work.
Prices range between CA$30+ to CA$60+ shipping included. N, K and L frames, round or square butts.
All kinds of woods.
 
ATT didn't come in, so I hit the range with my only .45, a norinco. I had a few shooters have a go with her, and the sights are definitely wonky. 2 inches low and one inch right of center @ approx 20 yards.
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Don't get me wrong, I've been a 1911 fan since my grandpa let me play with his 'war relic' as a kid. The wheel gun was just so well balanced (and obviously he had zeroed his sights!). The lack of recoil in the S&W was just really surprising.
 
this thread makes me chuckles ; same thing happened to me not later than 2 weeks ago when my boss at the range ran on me asking: ''do you want a mint 686-6''' ?!! ; i've never had any thoughts about getting into '''Wheel guns''',i'm a convinced semi auto fan but reflected along the recent years about the fact i need at least one S&W revolver to close the loop on my ''must have''' list. an old chap was chased by the CFO to either get a membership in the nearest range ,OR letting down the gun.since he barely fired 50 rounds total over the years , he decided to drop it down offering it to my boss at a price to sell fast. i wraped the occasion .
 
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sigtactical said:
this thread makes me chuckles ; same thing happened to me not later than 2 weeks ago when my boss at the range ran on me asking: ''do you want a mint 686-6''' ?!! ; i've never had any thoughts about getting into '''Wheel guns''',i'm a convinced semi auto fan but reflected along the recent years about the fact i need at least one S&W revolver to close the loop on my ''must have''' list. an old chap was chased by the CFO to either get a membership in the nearest range ,OR letting down the gun.since he barely fired 50 rounds total over the years , he decided to drop it down offering it to my boss at a price to sell fast. i wraped the occasion .
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Hey Sigtactical when i get to the Ruisseau Noir with my Desert Eagle 24 kt 44 mag, we will take a look at this beauty... Cheers. JP.
 
Somerset Bar said:
So I was at the range last weekend, shooting away with my .45 and as usual missing everything (I really need to replace those sights), and buddy starts blasting away with this shiny monstrosity and putting the bullets where he meant to! Outrageous! I thinks to meself, there must be some kind of leprechaun magic at work. So I says to the leprechaun tamer "HEY! YEAH YOUSE! WHAT'S THAT PURDY LITTLE THANG?". Once he realized I wasn't talking about his wife, he lets me fondle and/or shoot said bauble. Turns out, they make guns where the bullets go into these little WHEELS! So I says "where's the leprachaun fit in this thing?" and he's lookin' at me like maybe it was a mistake handing me a loaded revolver (fancy name!), I realize he's not understanding my redneck verbage so I just go about spending his money for him and sending it downrange. Well wouldn't you know! That little sniggly put bullets RIGHT WHERE I AIMED THEM!

So overly long and confuzzled story short, I'm waiting on my ATT to pick up my very own 6" 686 stainless. I asked at the store, and no, no leprechauns, so I set out a trap.
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You're not the only one. Say, out of 14 shots with my Norinco, maybe 2 of them will hit.
 
The S&W 686 is great but the recoil on the 357 is a killer.

I tied the 38 in the 686 and still way too much recoil but all in all a lot of fun.

Congrats on your new purchase at least you will have a gun that your wife wouldn't want to play with if she is anything like mine.....lol
 
Love my 586-1 same gun just blued which I prefer.

Re: your norinco drift the front sight left and file it down a bit to make it shoot higher And righter! Every norinco 1911 I've owned (4) all shot significantly low. Got an STI, bang on. Chinese sights seem to be the weak point on many of their guns.
 
Another Wheelgun convert. Welcome to the Club. The new member package with the description of our secret handshake will be along in the mail shortly.... :D

I was like you when I tried my first ever revolver. A S&W model 10 with four inch barrel as it happens. It felt a trifle odd in the hands but there was no arguing with how it shot. Right away I was putting rounds into as small or smaller a group as anything I'd managed with a semi auto for up to that time.

And learning to shoot well in DA model with a smooth and steady pull also is great training for dealing with any trigger on any style of gun.

As for your 1911 the sights being off by that much isn't a big deal. The real question is how well it groups when you aim at the one spot and shoot.

Correcting the sights is easy enough though. Mauser Mike already said how to correct the issues by moving the front. But if it's staked and not a dovetail sight then you need to drift the back sight a hair for the windage issue. Put a small pencil mark on the sight and slide and move it to the left just enough to see that the marks don't line up anymore. Shoot it again to see if the windage is corrected. Continue to adjust as required in small amounts that are only about the thickness of a piece of paper. An inch out at 20 is bugger all so it takes a very small fraction of bugger all at the sight to move that far.

I'd suggest that for starters you simply get the windage corrected first. THEN deal with the elevation. To lift the group you'll need to file a few thousandths off the front blade. A nice way to do this is get a long and wide smooth cut file. Tape or hold a riser pad that is about 3 inches long and 1/16 to 1/8 inch thick to the back portion of one face to use as a running surface for the rear sight so only the front is cut and that it is cut at a slight angle. To use this rig field strip the gun and put the slide upside down on the file so the front sight is on the teeth and the rear is resting on the riser pad. Holding the rear firmly to the pad to ensure the front blade cut is flat to the rear sight pull the slide along so the front blade is cut a little. With the other hand apply pressure to the slide at the front sight so you get a good cut and pull the slide along the teeth. Continue until the cut extends back and forms a "horizon" line that you'll see from the rear. At that point cut one or two more short strokes to shorten the height a trifle. Go test at the range for at least a couple of magazines worth of shooting. Cut more off as required.

It's easy to remove the metal and not so easy to put it back on again. So sneak up on the final adjustment. I suggest when you get really close that you shoot over a couple of sessions before removing more metal just to be sure that the last little bit isn't you doing something a little different from session to session.

Also note that shooting a little low to the tune of 2 inches at 20 yards can easily be due to using hotter than standard ammo. I would try some other brands of 230 ball as well just to test the final setting so that you get the best overall compromise.
 
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