CQB in BC now!!

Ganderite said:
Modified prone presents a lot of challenges that have to be experienced to fully appreciate.

The brake, for example, will blow a divot in the ground and can coat you and your glasses and the rifle with grit. A linear brake solves that issue.

At Camp Borden, the scrub grass is on a very sandy soil. The brake blows the sand everywhere. I shot the same event on real grass at the Guelph club, and there was no reaction from the ground at all. In BC, modified prone would probably create a rooster tail.
You lay on your strong side. The “down” arm and hand are somewhat trapped. With a AR15, your hand would run the trigger and push the mag release. Left hand would change mags and push bolt release. No sweat.

With 858, the bolt release is on the down side of the rifle, so that gets a bit awkward. Reloading a SKS in modified prone would be very difficult.

When I shoot modified prone, I use my down arm to hold the forend, and I run the trigger with my top hand (my left). This makes for a lot less adjusting of the hold when I use the left hand to change mags. But this will only work if the gun allows the left hand to drop the bolt. Or, one could change mags after 4 shots, so bolt does not lock back.

This is what it looks like, when you switch hands and run the trigger with the wrong hand. As you can see, the support arm aiming the rifle does not get disturbed when changing mags. You can also see how a doubled mag makes a mag swap faster.

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This was my suggestion, I added a bolt handle on the left side of my Cz858 so I could #### it easily with my left hand. This way of shooting, left handed, is so comfortable and stable.

I dont understand this continued use of right hand cocking handles. The Germans got it right way back in WWII with the MP38, MP40 and StG44, cocking handles on the left side. Right hand never leaves the pistol grip.
 
beltfed said:
It is meant to simulate a barrier above such as shooting under a vehicle, where the shooter needs to get the rifle and sights as low as possible to clear the obstruction.

Ganderite: that looks like a good way to induce a stoppage with your forearm so close to potentially cover the ejection port - looks quite stable though.:cheers:
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I wondered about that with the ARs, but seems to work OK. Cz858 is no problem, ejects way out.
 
billygoat said:
My nephew ran an SKS at Hungry's clinic. He's left-handed so it worked out just fine.
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Shooting SKS left handed puts the cocking handle within easy reach. But, in the modified prone position, reloading the SKS is a chore. First, you have to do it one-handed and you have to put the ammo in from the top, not the bottom, like other guns. The top is really out of reach in the MF position.

The "Perfect" rifle for modified prone (for a right -handed shooter) is one that has the mag release, bolt release and bolt handle on the left side of the action. I have only found 3 guns in my collection that have those features:

A Norinco AR-15. It comes with an ambi mag release.

Modified 858 with a bolt handle screwed into the left side of the bolt.

A Hi-Point Carbine.

One of the things to learn about your rifle, when shooting it on its side, is where to aim. Some of my rifles shoot to point of aim both vertical and sideways. But most shoot a bit low left in modified prone, so I aim at the top left corner of his white wrist patch.
 
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I have two spots open from cancellations. So far everyone on the waiting list is in. Send an email to the address in the first post before its too late! First come first served!
 
Nope seems to be a lot of flu going around! The boys from wanstalls are under the weather so the shooters they had coming now have to work. So I have 4 spaces open instead of 2!
 
Well, I have to say that was a huge success. Thanks very much to Ryan for getting it off the ground, Claude for getting us range time, the volunteers who kept the shooting lines running, and the sponsors - I believe Wanstall's, DSTactical and Lever all pitched in and prizes were impressive. Hopefully I'll get corrected if there were more sponsors.

I'm looking forward to the next round. I do intend to zero my rifle first, however.
 
Outstanding event! The four squads moved through each match with zero issue and we even had time left for eating/reloading. Congratulations to the organizers!! And thank you to the scorekeeper for preventing us from using our fingers and toes to sum match results!

Thank you to the sponsors for a very good showing as well; some fantastic prizes to be had!! Now I have some pmags to cerakote....

I learned that the XCR shoots better when assembled and that the RMR can only take so much water before you have multiple aiming points... BUIS FTW!
 
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Kudo's to all
Very well thought out and organized.
RSO's kept things flowing and safe.
Stats was well organized.
Shooters got right into the safety, target marking and patching.
Awesome prises from named sponsors.
Rain kept the lead dust down.
Best of all I got to see old buddies and shoot with some new ones.
 
The shotgun was donated by our very own local gunsmithing guru Grensvegter! Unfortunately he had to cover for me on Almost Human today and couldn't shoot the match. His sacrifice was a big one. ;) Thanks buddy! Who was it that took home the shotgun anyways?? I can't remember.
 
10/10, huge success, would shoot again.

The set up and organization was well above what I expected for a first time out. Relays were quick and basically no hold up.

Prizes were phenomenal. An R15 and a shotgun!? PMags, Fastmag, couple of chest rigs (I would have really like that Mayflower!), $200 certificate to Wanstall, range bag and rifle bag. Jeez. So a big thank you is in order for DS, Lever and Wanstall.
 
Big thank you to all who put this awesome match together! It was so much fun. Once again, thank you all sponsors and all who was shooting. When we are going to have next one?!
PS. Running SKS and Tokarev was a great experience, but next time I have to get right equipment. :ar15:
 
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