210gr lrab recovered

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Results starting to trickle in on the lrabs. I'm not impressed considering this is a bonded bullet.


Edit g7 is also overstated at .366 and is more realistic at ~.320 like the 210 Berger. Several people on lrh have tested this at 1k now.
 
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50% at 500 yards is all that was left and no exit on a deer smaller than a real dog? Nosler rates them for deer, moose and African game with no maximum impact speed restriction. They make it sound like your good to go no matter what.
 
kman300 said:
50% at 500 yards is all that was left and no exit on a deer smaller than a real dog? Nosler rates them for deer, moose and African game with no maximum impact speed restriction. They make it sound like your good to go no matter what.
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It might be a bit soft, but 2 feet of deer is a lot of material to penetrate.

And not everything in Africa has a weight measured in tons or a hide an inch thick.
 
Never mind Africa. What's going to happen when you put one in a moose at 100 yards and hit some bone? If all that's left at 500 yards on a dog sized deer from a 210gr bullet with only a few ribs hit is 50% it doesn't exactly make one feel maximum weight retention and being bonded are what you get.
 
Well the 168gr LRAB I recovered was about the same weight retention. The mule deer that I shot at ~320 yards was broadside and I had a pass through. From my other post:

Here are some pictures of the recovered bullet beside a new 168gr LRAB for comparison. The recovered bullet weighs 83.6gr, so just a hair under 50% weight retention.

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Sounds like a decent long range bullet, and it's nice to have options.

However, it kind of seems like this is Nosler's version of a Berger bullet, at a third more money...
 
kman300 said:
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Results starting to trickle in on the lrabs. I'm not impressed considering this is a bonded bullet.


Edit g7 is also overstated at .366 and is more realistic at ~.320 like the 210 Berger. Several people on lrh have tested this at 1k now.
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The Accubond has never performed like other bonded bullets and has always shed a high percentage of its weight much more like a cup and core...I'm not sure why anyone expected anything different from a long-range bullet designed to expand at even lower impact velocities.
 
Northman999 said:
Sounds like a decent long range bullet, and it's nice to have options.

However, it kind of seems like this is Nosler's version of a Berger bullet, at a third more money...
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I think they hold together much better than a Berger. To me it is more like Berger ballistics without the entire bullet turning into shrapnel upon hitting game. Have you ever seen a recovered Berger with a nice mushroom and 50% retained weight?
 
1899 said:
I think they hold together much better than a Berger. To me it is more like Berger ballistics without the entire bullet turning into shrapnel upon hitting game. Have you ever seen a recovered Berger with a nice mushroom and 50% retained weight?
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Honestly, no, but I've never shot anything with one at 500 yards.

If the LRAB holds up better than the Berger over a much wider range of impact velocities, that would be great, but with only 50% weight retention at 500 yards, I have to wonder what it would look like on a 75 yard shoulder shot, which is the kind of shot that gives Bergers a bad rep with some hunters.
 
So many hunters want a bullet to do everything at every range and it just ain't so. If it's going to expand well at low impact velocities it's not rocket science to figure out what it's going to do at high impact velocities. If you are a hunter that encounters primarily long range shots then it's likely a good candidate for you....if you aren't then it's likely not. If you and your rifle aren't comfortable past 500 yards, I can't figure out why anyone would load a long-range bullet like the LRAB or Berger. It makes no sense and it makes less sense to complain about the bullet's performance. There are countless bonded and mono-metal options that perform far better in that 0-500 yard envelope. Once you get beyond that, well ya, then you need to consider a long range bullet.
 
Northman999 said:
Honestly, no, but I've never shot anything with one at 500 yards.

If the LRAB holds up better than the Berger over a much wider range of impact velocities, that would be great, but with only 50% weight retention at 500 yards, I have to wonder what it would look like on a 75 yard shoulder shot, which is the kind of shot that gives Bergers a bad rep with some hunters.
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The one I recovered (above picture) was from a Whitetail at 40 yards, impact velocity was probably +2700fps. It hit a rib on the way in and was recovered in front of the off side shoulder.
 
sheephunter said:
If you and your rifle aren't comfortable past 500 yards, I can't figure out why anyone would load a long-range bullet like the LRAB or Berger. It makes no sense and it makes less sense to complain about the bullet's performance. There are countless bonded and mono-metal options that perform far better in that 0-500 yard envelope. Once you get beyond that, well ya, then you need to consider a long range bullet.
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Actually I like the idea of a mild reduced load for youth that still performs well at what most people consider longish ranges.
 
1899 said:
Actually I like the idea of a mild reduced load for youth that still performs well at what most people consider longish ranges.
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Diminished impact velocities due to light loads may indeed be another argument for long range bullets but truthfully, with long range bullets we are typically talking heavy for caliber so any gain in reduced recoil by reducing velocity would be lost to the heavy weight of the bullet. It would make more sense to use a light-weight bullet with a decent BC that was designed to expand at low impact velocities if recoil reduction is the ultimate goal....IMHO.
 
The problem with the lrab is that nosler says there is no max speed restriction which means bubba will load it in his rum at 3100fps and then come on the internet and complain when it doesn't go through an elk shoulder 100 yards. Nosler isn't advertising to only use it past a certain range.
 
I'm sure it would work at high impact velocities...it just wouldn't be pretty. Not sure a minimum range warning is warranted. One would hope common sense would dictate but common sense isn't all that common these days I guess.
 
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