T97 on sale $850

Heh that's a pretty good rant. I was at least a little excited about the T-97 when I heard it was coming out but it's been one little disappointment after another. The looks weren't so great, then tight mag well, now something about barrel gouges and the final nail in the coffin for me was the absolutely horrific ergonomics. Rear safety that's damn near flush? Mag release that's dinky and in very much the wrong place? I'm all for having more new stuff but damn this one isn't the ticket for me.

That said, if someone gave me one well I'd shoot the heck out of it and enjoy it. It's just a little too awkward and expensive for me to take the risk on it.

If it floats your boat though, all the power to you. I'm just disappointed it never lived up to my expectations.
 
So you have to buy three or four to get a good one which then exceeds the price of a Tavor?

Seems there's a lot of disappointment and regret surrounding the T97

Or 5 or 6

LOL maybe you should read the whole post and the one that follows. I am not what you call a type 97 fan. I don't want a tavor either but I can tell you given the choice I will take a tavor over the type 97 even if it cost me money.
 
Or 5 or 6

LOL maybe you should read the whole post and the one that follows. I am not what you call a type 97 fan. I don't want a tavor either but I can tell you given the choice I will take a tavor over the type 97 even if it cost me money.

Oh I read it and get it. I am not a T97 fan at all either.
 
If you don't like the T97 it doesn't mean you have to crap on everybody else's. Get a rifle you like and be happy with it. Holy...

On a happy note I love my T97.

There is a bit of a testosterone overdose on these boards...
 
Do you really want me to start on the downsides of your precious bullpup?

I already have 2, I'm not too fussed, I got the first one for 700, the second for 750 and that one came with 7 mags. I have a total of 27 mags for both my cz, and neither of the two have had a single issue running all of the mags. I doubt you would find a t97 that can claim that


Even the westrifle vz2008 that has the chrome lined at 880. 150 for a railed top? My fab defense was $90 bucks for complete handguard, and I have run 800 rounds in one session on short order with 10 mags. So spare me the plastic will melt bs, it hasnt shifted poi, it runs just fine. the optic holds zero.

So lets change the cz858 to the vz2008 from westrifle. 880 vs 1000. superior functionality, The cz can accept m4 adjustable stocks, what if the t97 stock is too long or too short? How do you adjust for it? What shims for a minute amount of adjustability? Oh wait the LOP is fixed.

What about shoulder transitions? Can you shoot left handed without feeding yourself brass in the face? No, where is the safety selector? Way in the back. Where is the mag release? Way in the back and to the right? Every other bullpup has ambi mag releases, fammas, tavor, aug, msbs, vepr, fs2000 you name it.

So they tried to copy the fammas with an ambi center charging handle. How is that working with that low profile m14 ftu? little tight to access?

Can you show me how to clear a malfunction with your rifle? Oh it's a bit slow is it? Hmmm, what about the reloads? Some guns that have a whore hole like the tavor you can do some damn quick changes, lol try that one with your t97. Bullpup reloads are already less than ideal although with sufficient training I believe you can become decent at it, but the t97 with its tight magwell? Again show me how well that reloads work.

Have you found a cure for that ridiculous bore offset? Where do you mount lights to? How much of a shadow does that create?

556 is the superior ammunition, but I am confident with my chances to down people with a 7.62x39 if the day comes where I have to take human life. And on a less dark subject, in alberta you are not allowed to hunt with 223 you are with 7.62x39.

No quality ar has had trouble running decent stanag mags, be it gi or another variant, or pmag or lar. or beowulf. Yet the t97 is picky. Why?

Bullpups in my opinion are subpar at best and with the exceptions of an aug I really wouldn't own any other, and this is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to that lot, and you are trying to tell me that this thing doesn't suck? I'm sorry you like how it looks or some other subjective fun stuff, great. But this is not a good rifle by any stretch, and it costs 4 figures. Just because the next closest bullpup is more than double the price doesn't justify how much this costs. If this thing was 300 I would have bought one for vain curiosity and ran it till it failed after its second mag then just used it as a buttscratcher.

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Good for you, you already have 2. For those that don't, they have to pay up the ridiculous price to get one. I bought one for $520 like new a few months ago and re-sold it for $850. Couldn't justify keeping it. The mag release wasn't great on the T97 but I can do faster mag changes on that than with a stock CZ 858, thats for sure. Ive already posted this several times, but one more cant hurt. This was after like 2-3 days of having the gun and maybe 20 minutes of practice with reloads.

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Sorry what were you saying about horribly slow reloads?

LOP was great for me, may not be for others. CZ accepts AR stocks, but you will have to pay for it. You have yours setup with that POS folder and POS full stock. Both suck (IMO) and require upgrades to feel proper. Only + to the folder is its compact which I do like. The M14 FTU is actually improving the charging handle and will also have an option for mounting a light. You would know this if you read instead of hating :p Bore offset wont be that bad with the FTU, really not a huge deal if you just zero your optic. Not a problem for the average gun owner.

Yes, I think it looks cool. Yes the gun is fun, and small, and light, and affordable compared to a Tavor. If you really think this should be priced at $300, I think SKS's should be priced at $80, doesn't really mean it should actually be priced there. I would be happy with the T97 somewhere around $600-$700.

Overall, I really think your over-thinking this. Your mentioning so many things that are considerations on a rifle your actually going to war with. Shoulder transitions? Light shadow? You think this is on the mind of the average gun owner? Its pretty funny, because before saying these things you mention you use a Fab handguard on your guns lol. You want to compare that to a custom made aluminum flat top then complain prices are higher? That Fab handguard is an absolute POS. For someone who is bringing up all of these "serious use gun" issues, you go an put a plastic Fab handguard and not NEA/BC tactical/B&T?

All in all I am a fan of the CZ. Really great rifle and happy we can own it. Bottom line is though, the T97 takes 10 round mags, the CZ doesn't. Its just another option for us and I think you just have a grudge against it. If you really hate it that much, fine, but stop comparing it to the CZ. The only thing they have in common is the non restricted status.
 
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If you don't like the T97 it doesn't mean you have to crap on everybody else's.
It is not a matter of "like", many of the T97's have problems that the fanboys refuse to acknowledge.

This isn't my opinion, this is real info gathered from a number of rifles I have handled and also seen at my local range.
 
It is not a matter of "like", many of the T97's have problems that the fanboys refuse to acknowledge.

This isn't my opinion, this is real info gathered from a number of rifles I have handled and also seen at my local range.

Well , one of the range masters where I go t o has a $4000 dollar carbine build, he says the T97 is awesome, and has even less recoil then the AR he has. Two people there bashed the #### out of it, then I watched them shoot, both LEFTIES! I laughed so hard. Its just like the M305 , "you gotta buy 3 to get a good one!" Right? Yet when I bought two M305's and no big probs with em, indexing was off a bit but both shoot like a dream, I paid 500 dollars and got more then 500 dollars worth of gun. I do believe the T97 at $1000 they are overpriced, I'll wait for that price to lower then pick one up.

I will be honest, I think the Canadian gun market is making them overpriced, Reliable sold theirs for 850 on a sale (So did , and so DO other gun stores), Canam is going to sell theirs for 850, everyone made such a HUGE roar about these before they landed, that I think retailers new they could get top dollar for them, I will buy one when the price is right, 1000? Nope. 850? More like it. 700-800? That sounds about right for these.

Dont forget, for every bad report, or good report, there are 20 people who DONT come on here, or the internet at all, that are totally happy with purchases. I find usually when #### goes wrong, thats when people feel the need to write about it.

Its Norinco, some of em are gonna suck, that's why they are less then half the price of Tavors.... I think bullpups are the ugliest looking guns in the world lol. But, what other options you got for a non restricted AR mag gun for under 2000 dollars? And this one is under 1000.
 
Good for you, you already have 2. For those that don't, they have to pay up the ridiculous price to get one. I bought one for $520 like new a few months ago and re-sold it for $850. Couldn't justify keeping it. The mag release wasn't great on the T97 but I can do faster mag changes on that than with a stock CZ 858, thats for sure. Ive already posted this several times, but one more cant hurt. This was after like 2-3 days of having the gun and maybe 20 minutes of practice with reloads.

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Sorry what were you saying about horribly slow reloads?

LOP was great for me, may not be for others. CZ accepts AR stocks, but you will have to pay for it. You have yours setup with that POS folder and POS full stock. Both suck (IMO) and require upgrades to feel proper. Only + to the folder is its compact which I do like. The M14 FTU is actually improving the charging handle and will also have an option for mounting a light. You would know this if you read instead of hating :p Bore offset wont be that bad with the FTU, really not a huge deal if you just zero your optic. Not a problem for the average gun owner.

Yes, I think it looks cool. Yes the gun is fun, and small, and light, and affordable compared to a Tavor. If you really think this should be priced at $300, I think SKS's should be priced at $80, doesn't really mean it should actually be priced there. I would be happy with the T97 somewhere around $600-$700.

Overall, I really think your over-thinking this. Your mentioning so many things that are considerations on a rifle your actually going to war with. Shoulder transitions? Light shadow? You think this is on the mind of the average gun owner? Its pretty funny, because before saying these things you mention you use a Fab handguard on your guns lol. You want to compare that to a custom made aluminum flat top then complain prices are higher? That Fab handguard is an absolute POS. For someone who is bringing up all of these "serious use gun" issues, you go an put a plastic Fab handguard and not NEA/BC tactical/B&T?

All in all I am a fan of the CZ. Really great rifle and happy we can own it. Bottom line is though, the T97 takes 10 round mags, the CZ doesn't. Its just another option for us and I think you just have a grudge against it. If you really hate it that much, fine, but stop comparing it to the CZ. The only thing they have in common is the non restricted status.

Have you tried the lop with a chest rig of any sort?

And like I said, I ran 800 or so rounds snappish through that rifle on 10 mags in one session, not a single issue. no part of the handguard melted, no poi shift. I have empirical data to back that up, if the handguard didn't hold up or shifted poi it wouldn't be on there. That doesn't mean it is better than a nea handguard nor did I ever claim it was. It is good enough... for now. evenutally I would like this setup or at least a part of this setup.



As for that reload why don't you at least shoot the thing before reloading? Show us the malfunction drills? And don't just do slick reloads, lets see it with some gear on, along with prone reloads. Oh wait I forgot, you lot only think in square range mentality.

And you would be incorrect, the cz can be adapted to accept the 7.62x39 lar 10 round mags.

My rifle is set up the way it is setup because it works just fine for me, if it needs to be altered it will be altered till I have the desired level of performance. I have tried it with nothing but street clothes on to wearing full gear. Either way still works. Incidentally where is someone supposed to mount a sling on that type 97?

And define won't be that bad? What is the bore offset with the m14ftu?

And for my 2 cents worth, I think a sks would make a great addition to a campfire when I run out of firewood, past that I have not much use for it.

Since you seem to struggle to understand my engrish let me make it simple on why I dislike the type 97

-Finnicky on what mags it works with, with no consistancy, some hate gi some lar, etc
-Ridiculous bore offset
-No optics mounting ability out of the box, none to the western world anyways, weird you would think a modern rifle would have that
-On-off reliability problems
-Horrible ergonomics
-Crap trigger(in fairness almost all bullpups have bad triggers in them)
-Piss poor finishing quality
-Showing premature wear
-Some examples showing blatant manufacturing defects, and the manufacturer has done what to fix them? NOTHING
-Horrible factory sights
-Has trouble cycling action if gun is tilted off the side<- at least in some cases
-Fixed lop
-Cannot be shot from the left side
-Flash hider is pinned on, so it cannot be changed to a better unit.
-Firing pin cannot be dissasembled so if your firing pin breaks you need a new bolt altogether.
-Norinco doing nothing about the "teething" problems that tons of these guns are having
-having to make your own feed ramps(seriously? You pay 1k for a rifle then have to do more work to make it run?)
-Horrible for type 2 or worse malfunctions

Now let me point out the downsides of the cz just as a comparison
-Near impossible to mount magnified optics
-Doesn't come with an adjustable stock out of the box
-The factory handguard is not vented.
-Uses inferior(imo) rock and lock system
-No tritium night sight front post

Let's go over what I think the type 97 has going for it.
-Full length barrel in a compact package
-Good balance

In short the two advantages of a bullpup, nothing in particular to the rifles history

Let's go over the advantages of the cz
-Not picky on mags
-Lower bore offset
-Smaller shadow on light
-Proven to be reliable over the last 50+ years
-Extremely simple takedown
-Many parts to accessorize with as required by user.
-If standard stock LOP is not to users size, can be switched to m4 stock, or other adjustables.
-Open top receiver makes it easy to clear malfunctions.

Yes of course it's just biased bs from me right? WRONG. You like your ginger beef gun because it rooks rike the one jackie chan used in whatever movie you watched good for you. But don't pretend it is a good rifle. Because very simply put it isn't.

And no in a free country I would not have either I would have a HK416 and never look back. So by all means call me the cz fanboy all you want. Facts don't lie. One of them is the objectively superior rifle. The end.
 
Good for you, you already have 2. For those that don't, they have to pay up the ridiculous price to get one. I bought one for $520 like new a few months ago and re-sold it for $850. Couldn't justify keeping it. The mag release wasn't great on the T97 but I can do faster mag changes on that than with a stock CZ 858, thats for sure. Ive already posted this several times, but one more cant hurt. This was after like 2-3 days of having the gun and maybe 20 minutes of practice with reloads.

[youtube]?v=UXjp08lBuVk[/youtube]

Sorry what were you saying about horribly slow reloads?

LOP was great for me, may not be for others. CZ accepts AR stocks, but you will have to pay for it. You have yours setup with that POS folder and POS full stock. Both suck (IMO) and require upgrades to feel proper. Only + to the folder is its compact which I do like. The M14 FTU is actually improving the charging handle and will also have an option for mounting a light. You would know this if you read instead of hating :p Bore offset wont be that bad with the FTU, really not a huge deal if you just zero your optic. Not a problem for the average gun owner.

Yes, I think it looks cool. Yes the gun is fun, and small, and light, and affordable compared to a Tavor. If you really think this should be priced at $300, I think SKS's should be priced at $80, doesn't really mean it should actually be priced there. I would be happy with the T97 somewhere around $600-$700.

Overall, I really think your over-thinking this. Your mentioning so many things that are considerations on a rifle your actually going to war with. Shoulder transitions? Light shadow? You think this is on the mind of the average gun owner? Its pretty funny, because before saying these things you mention you use a Fab handguard on your guns lol. You want to compare that to a custom made aluminum flat top then complain prices are higher? That Fab handguard is an absolute POS. For someone who is bringing up all of these "serious use gun" issues, you go an put a plastic Fab handguard and not NEA/BC tactical/B&T?

All in all I am a fan of the CZ. Really great rifle and happy we can own it. Bottom line is though, the T97 takes 10 round mags, the CZ doesn't. Its just another option for us and I think you just have a grudge against it. If you really hate it that much, fine, but stop comparing it to the CZ. The only thing they have in common is the non restricted status.

Have you tried the lop with a chest rig of any sort?

And like I said, I ran 800 or so rounds snappish through that rifle on 10 mags in one session, not a single issue. no part of the handguard melted, no poi shift. I have empirical data to back that up, if the handguard didn't hold up or shifted poi it wouldn't be on there. That doesn't mean it is better than a nea handguard nor did I ever claim it was. It is good enough... for now. evenutally I would like this setup or at least a part of this setup.



As for that reload why don't you at least shoot the thing before reloading? Show us the malfunction drills? And don't just do slick reloads, lets see it with some gear on, along with prone reloads. Oh wait I forgot, you lot only think in square range mentality.

And you would be incorrect, the cz can be adapted to accept the 7.62x39 lar 10 round mags.

My rifle is set up the way it is setup because it works just fine for me, if it needs to be altered it will be altered till I have the desired level of performance. I have tried it with nothing but street clothes on to wearing full gear. Either way still works. Incidentally where is someone supposed to mount a sling on that type 97?

And define won't be that bad? What is the bore offset with the m14ftu?

And for my 2 cents worth, I think a sks would make a great addition to a campfire when I run out of firewood, past that I have not much use for it.

Since you seem to struggle to understand my engrish let me make it simple on why I dislike the type 97

-Finnicky on what mags it works with, with no consistancy, some hate gi some lar, etc
-Ridiculous bore offset
-No optics mounting ability out of the box, none to the western world anyways, weird you would think a modern rifle would have that
-On-off reliability problems
-Horrible ergonomics
-Crap trigger(in fairness almost all bullpups have bad triggers in them)
-Piss poor finishing quality
-Showing premature wear
-Some examples showing blatant manufacturing defects, and the manufacturer has done what to fix them? NOTHING
-Horrible factory sights
-Has trouble cycling action if gun is tilted off the side<- at least in some cases
-Fixed lop
-Cannot be shot from the left side
-Flash hider is pinned on, so it cannot be changed to a better unit.
-Firing pin cannot be dissasembled so if your firing pin breaks you need a new bolt altogether.
-Norinco doing nothing about the "teething" problems that tons of these guns are having
-having to make your own feed ramps(seriously? You pay 1k for a rifle then have to do more work to make it run?)
-Horrible for type 2 or worse malfunctions

Now let me point out the downsides of the cz just as a comparison
-Near impossible to mount magnified optics
-Doesn't come with an adjustable stock out of the box
-The factory handguard is not vented.
-Uses inferior(imo) rock and lock system
-No tritium night sight front post

Let's go over what I think the type 97 has going for it.
-Full length barrel in a compact package
-Good balance

In short the two advantages of a bullpup, nothing in particular to the rifles history

Let's go over the advantages of the cz
-Not picky on mags
-Lower bore offset
-Smaller shadow on light
-Proven to be reliable over the last 50+ years
-Extremely simple takedown
-Many parts to accessorize with as required by user.
-If standard stock LOP is not to users size, can be switched to m4 stock, or other adjustables.
-Open top receiver makes it easy to clear malfunctions.

Yes of course it's just biased bs from me right? WRONG. You like your ginger beef gun because it rooks rike the one jackie chan used in whatever movie you watched good for you. But don't pretend it is a good rifle. Because very simply put it isn't.

And no in a free country I would not have either I would have a HK416 and never look back. So by all means call me the cz fanboy all you want. Facts don't lie. One of them is the objectively superior rifle. The end.
 
That entire post was EXTREMELY biased and stupidly ####ing racist.

That #### has fanboy written ALLL OVER it.

Cool pic of a restricted 2500 dollar CZ by the way.

You do not like the T97, we get it, the facts you posted are largely one sided.
 
Something you are missing is that not everybody runs only one platform.
If I'm going to a gunfight, I'll take the tavor, acr, ar, etc.

My t97 works perfectly, with a minor amount of tweaking.
It is good value for the money, and a great coyote gun. It's charm lies in its short length, decent accuracy, and light weight.
I've tried using a cz, but it invariably gets hung up in every willow thicket, and in general offers no advantages in that type of spot and stalk hunting.
So it's all application specific, if one was a range cowboy, I can see how the t97 would leave many boxes unchecked. Fortunately I have better guns than both the cz and t97 for running drills or long range shooting.
 
Something you are missing is that not everybody runs only one platform.
If I'm going to a gunfight, I'll take the tavor, acr, ar, etc.

My t97 works perfectly, with a minor amount of tweaking.
It is good value for the money, and a great coyote gun. It's charm lies in its short length, decent accuracy, and light weight.
I've tried using a cz, but it invariably gets hung up in every willow thicket, and in general offers no advantages in that type of spot and stalk hunting.
So it's all application specific, if one was a range cowboy, I can see how the t97 would leave many boxes unchecked. Fortunately I have better guns than both the cz and t97 for running drills or long range shooting.

Have you had a chance to drop any coyotes with it yet?. I have the t97 on my to buy list and I am trying to get some experienced users opinions on it as a coyote gun.
 
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Im not going to quote that long ass incoherent and unbalanced rant, but lol wow, what did I just read? So you like your CZ, but you want to totally morph its stock form by adding every accessory available more than doubling the cost of the gun, then talk down the T97 because the FTU is costly? Also, one range session, congrats. Thats real proof that the POS fab handguard will hold up over time. Anyways, you probably haven't even held a T97 and are making a lot of assumptions. Im not a fanboy for either gun, but you are just plain biased. Some of the things you listed are just plain wrong, including not being able to be shot from the left side. You say the SKS is good for firewood? Wow, ok, an extremely cheap, reliable and solid rifle is good for firewood. Probably because you cant slap a bunch of tacticool accessories on it? Another armchair commando outed.
 
Have you had a chance to drop any coyotes with it yet?. I have the t97 on my to buy list and I am trying to get some experienced users opinions on it as a coyote gun.

Quite a few, 200 yards and in.
The irons are hard to work with on movers though, I was in early on m14.ca's preorder for the flat top, so that will be rectified.
Besides that the only other issue is the safety requires more movement than I'd like, had a few coyotes in at about 20 yards and it was a challenge getting the safety off without them spotting me. But the safety is also very difficult to accidentally switch off too, which is an advantage when fighting through heavy brush.
 
Have you tried the lop with a chest rig of any sort?

And like I said, I ran 800 or so rounds snappish through that rifle on 10 mags in one session, not a single issue. no part of the handguard melted, no poi shift. I have empirical data to back that up, if the handguard didn't hold up or shifted poi it wouldn't be on there. That doesn't mean it is better than a nea handguard nor did I ever claim it was. It is good enough... for now. evenutally I would like this setup or at least a part of this setup.



As for that reload why don't you at least shoot the thing before reloading? Show us the malfunction drills? And don't just do slick reloads, lets see it with some gear on, along with prone reloads. Oh wait I forgot, you lot only think in square range mentality.

And you would be incorrect, the cz can be adapted to accept the 7.62x39 lar 10 round mags.

My rifle is set up the way it is setup because it works just fine for me, if it needs to be altered it will be altered till I have the desired level of performance. I have tried it with nothing but street clothes on to wearing full gear. Either way still works. Incidentally where is someone supposed to mount a sling on that type 97?

And define won't be that bad? What is the bore offset with the m14ftu?

And for my 2 cents worth, I think a sks would make a great addition to a campfire when I run out of firewood, past that I have not much use for it.

Since you seem to struggle to understand my engrish let me make it simple on why I dislike the type 97

-Finnicky on what mags it works with, with no consistancy, some hate gi some lar, etc
-Ridiculous bore offset
-No optics mounting ability out of the box, none to the western world anyways, weird you would think a modern rifle would have that
-On-off reliability problems
-Horrible ergonomics
-Crap trigger(in fairness almost all bullpups have bad triggers in them)
-Piss poor finishing quality
-Showing premature wear
-Some examples showing blatant manufacturing defects, and the manufacturer has done what to fix them? NOTHING
-Horrible factory sights
-Has trouble cycling action if gun is tilted off the side<- at least in some cases
-Fixed lop
-Cannot be shot from the left side
-Flash hider is pinned on, so it cannot be changed to a better unit.
-Firing pin cannot be dissasembled so if your firing pin breaks you need a new bolt altogether.
-Norinco doing nothing about the "teething" problems that tons of these guns are having
-having to make your own feed ramps(seriously? You pay 1k for a rifle then have to do more work to make it run?)
-Horrible for type 2 or worse malfunctions

Now let me point out the downsides of the cz just as a comparison
-Near impossible to mount magnified optics
-Doesn't come with an adjustable stock out of the box
-The factory handguard is not vented.
-Uses inferior(imo) rock and lock system
-No tritium night sight front post

Let's go over what I think the type 97 has going for it.
-Full length barrel in a compact package
-Good balance

In short the two advantages of a bullpup, nothing in particular to the rifles history

Let's go over the advantages of the cz
-Not picky on mags
-Lower bore offset
-Smaller shadow on light
-Proven to be reliable over the last 50+ years
-Extremely simple takedown
-Many parts to accessorize with as required by user.
-If standard stock LOP is not to users size, can be switched to m4 stock, or other adjustables.
-Open top receiver makes it easy to clear malfunctions.

Yes of course it's just biased bs from me right? WRONG. You like your ginger beef gun because it rooks rike the one jackie chan used in whatever movie you watched good for you. But don't pretend it is a good rifle. Because very simply put it isn't.

And no in a free country I would not have either I would have a HK416 and never look back. So by all means call me the cz fanboy all you want. Facts don't lie. One of them is the objectively superior rifle. The end.

what a complete ####ing moron.
 
A year ago when the T97 was offered to dealers by NS there was a mad rush to place very large orders due to the perceived high interest of the consumers for a non restricted bull pup under $1000. We were "reasonable" in our pre order (which was still very large) and we were able to sell every one at $999 (we are currently sold out). I think the main reason for dealers selling at $850 is simply over stock of one model. I believe some dealers got a few hundred pieces and now are trying to get out from underneath this overstock situation. The next shipment of T97's coming in are going up in price and it would be very difficult to keep selling more at $850 as that is near cost. Time will tell. Phil.
 
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