LB and Canadian Sniper pics requested

There is a value multiplier for No.4T sniper rifles. I consider the market price of a standard BSA wartime rifle without a scope as the basic unit. Each combination of maker, country and scope raises that market value. A LB No.4T with matched REL scope is the high end of multiplications, and $3000 is the sucker low ball offered in mock pain to an estate clearance.
 
Thought I would try out my new camera. Here are a couple closeups of my British made but Canadian marked sniper rifle.
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Here is the left wrist with the typical British factory markings along with the TR. Also there is a large C/l\, which was the Cdn property mark. It is often speculated that in Europe, the Cdn army primarily used British made snipers.
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Here is the serial number stamped on the wood, along with both the British broadarrow and the Canadian C-broadarrow.
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I bought my rifle less it's telescope and bracket. Later, when I did source a bracket and scope, it turned out to be just a couple digits away from my rifle. Close, but no cigar. :(

I owned a nicely matched Cdn sniper before in the 90L8### range, but actually prefer this Cdn used wartime example over the all matched post war british contract 90L rifle. The 90L out shoots this rifle for accuracy mind you, but this one is no dog either.
 
cantom said:
Beautiful! Finally some good pics of it...I immediately noticed that this rifle was FTR'd by Long Branch after 1950...obviously it was here.
Nice rifle!
More pics!
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What tells you that the rifle was FTR'd at LB??

My new camera is actually surprising me. I took a photo of the left side of the rifle trying to bring up what I thought was the T. When I closed in on the photo I could see that what I took for the T is actually a 1 from the etched "no4mk.1". This is not visible to the naked eye, even under various light and with a magnifying glass. I think I see some other inscription on the sidewall as well, so perhaps more photos are in order tomorrow.

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cantom said:
Ever seen that green colour on anything else? Me neither. Definitely not Brit, not Indian. That leaves us...
BTW, looks like yours doesn't have a T either...
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I am a little disappointed about the lack of the T, but I'll try a couple more shots of the side and see what pops up. It may have been faint and was lost to the refinishing, or it may not have had it at all.

The method of milling out the area on the scope bracket for the rifle number is also similar to LB rifles which I have seen. I believe your rifle also exhibits this Cantom.
 
stencollector said:
I am a little disappointed about the lack of the T, but I'll try a couple more shots of the side and see what pops up. It may have been faint and was lost to the refinishing, or it may not have had it at all.

The method of milling out the area on the scope bracket for the rifle number is also similar to LB rifles which I have seen. I believe your rifle also exhibits this Cantom.
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Yes it does.
Do your scope bracket finger knobs have the little dimples in the middle like LB ones do or flat like Brit?
I wonder if your bracket is actually Canadian made? That was a huge coincidence finding such a close number match on two different rifles like that, plus that Canadian style number stamping...
 
The bracket is Brit made as can be identified by the JC in the photo.

Show a closeup of your bracket numbering. Seems to me they are quite similar. Perhaps this was a semi-common thing at the Cdn 3rd or 4th line workshop.
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Mine is a Brit #4T. I have always assumed that was at one time a CF rifle. But now that I think about it, I can't be sure. It shoots well. I had the scope overhauled so that the knobs turned smoothly.

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I am a little disappointed about the lack of the T, but I'll try a couple more shots of the side and see what pops up. It may have been faint and was lost to the refinishing, or it may not have had it at all.
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Not all No. 4 snipers where marked with the T on the left side of the reciever. Is your 1944? I have come across a few made in 1944 that were not marked with a T but all did not have the split front sight block either. My speculation is that they were converted by Holland & Holland provided the rifle has all the other distinguishing conversion marks but the front sight block was out of spec so the final inspector did not stamp the final "T". If there is a "T" stamp it will not be faint in my experience but quite bold and distinct. I had an L42 and the original No. 4 "T" mark was still very clear even after the reciever was refinished and restamped with the L42 designation on the side.
 
Good thread. Can We can play again? .... Which one is the Long Branch Sniper. (Sorry that there are not as many to choose from.)

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I would have to guess the fourth one is a 90L on the basis of the nice wood. The third one could be as well, but my guess is it would more likely be an earlier Canadian or more likely a Brit no4T

I always love it when a guy puts his rifle up for a prize in a guessing game. Did I win?
 
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