BRNO 602 photos and info
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I just went with BRNOs (600 in 30-06, 602 in .375 H&H) as my bolt rifles so the "backwards" (I think of it as "#### to fire") safety is the same for me on my hunting and stopping (NA) rifles.
Backwards safety?
With all the different shooters around here and other play stuff, how does one not take a mental
note as to what is your custody and work according to the ways of such critters?
I tend to focus on task on hand.
Other than this key board that the buttons move around randomly to konfuze me.
With all the different shooters around here and other play stuff, how does one not take a mental
note as to what is your custody and work according to the ways of such critters?
I tend to focus on task on hand.
Other than this key board that the buttons move around randomly to konfuze me.
That's a shame Boomer. The stock stock, is a well fitting keeper for me. Would be heartbroken to lose it.
Hearing of these splitting probs., guess I got lucky ... Bedded both the barrel and action lugs in marinetex, with a 1/2 mil. gap behind the tang wood, and added internal cross rods, .. that was many many hundreds of rounds ago ... still good.
Mine spits 270 Horn. IL's at 2850fps stuffed with 8* some odd grains of compressed 4350, seated out to 3.840" oal. ... inside of MOA for the most part. The 500yd gongs, they really take a sh!tkick'n. 'Tis easy to do with this one.
But, downside is, she sure is some heavy to lug uphill.
As I get older and increasingly decrepit, it's the 7.5 lb. .366 Wagner that gets grabbed most often if the trail is going long and/or steep.
That said, I'll never sell my .375 BRNO 602.
As$backwards safety notwithstanding.
(sorry OP, can't do pics for ya ... don't know how nor own a camera ... you'd only drool all over the AAA grade Turkish Walnut anyways.)
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Now your stretching my memory. The custom barrel has a 3/8th" recoil lug welded to it about 3" ahead of the front action screw, which the stock was subsequently inletted for; there was no 3rd forward screw which normally anchors the 602's barrel. It seems to me that the crack started in the forend, I don't recall it cracking through the tang.
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
That's a shame Boomer. The stock stock, is a well fitting keeper for me. Would be heartbroken to lose it.
Hearing of these splitting probs., guess I got lucky ... Bedded both the barrel and action lugs in marinetex, with a 1/2 mil. gap behind the tang wood, and added internal cross rods, .. that was many many hundreds of rounds ago ... still good.
Mine spits 270 Horn. IL's at 2850fps stuffed with 8* some odd grains of compressed 4350, seated out to 3.840" oal. ... inside of MOA for the most part. The 500yd gongs, they really take a sh!tkick'n. 'Tis easy to do with this one.
But, downside is, she sure is some heavy to lug uphill.
As I get older and increasingly decrepit, it's the 7.5 lb. .366 Wagner that gets grabbed most often if the trail is going long and/or steep.
That said, I'll never sell my .375 BRNO 602.
As$backwards safety notwithstanding.
(sorry OP, can't do pics for ya ... don't know how nor own a camera ... you'd only drool all over the AAA grade Turkish Walnut anyways.)
With the factory stock trimmed to 13.25" with a new Decelerator and the 20" Ron Smith barrel, my 602 only weighed 7.5 pounds! Switching to the McMillan caused it to gain a pound and a half. Once the knuckle deflector was added, the shape of the pistol grip was no longer an issue for me, but the comb is a touch high, and using the Talley ghost ring caused me to mash my cheek so tight on the stock that the recoil would loosen my fillings. It really was unpleasant to the extent that I wouldn't use the Talley sight anymore. When I mounted the slightly higher NECG ghost ring on it, shooting it is far more tolerable. The drop of the 602's factory stock was perfect for shooting with irons, which combined with the good looks of the wood stock, the blued action and the stainless barrel, make me miss it a bit, but given the hard use that rifle saw, in some pretty nasty weather, its the better stock anyway, and it now adorns a second .375 Ultra. The way I get around the backwards safety was to simply picture an exposed hammer, and think "#### to fire!"
On the topic of safety's, Ed La'Pour has one of the nicest aftermarket safety's I've seen for the BRNO ZKK series and CZ550 series . You Win 70 lovers will like it a lot !
Personally the factory safety is fine, but sure like the look of the Win 70 style
If anyone can download my pictures of my 602's and post them I would appreciate it, as I am useless on the computer ?
Dale Z!
Personally the factory safety is fine, but sure like the look of the Win 70 style
If anyone can download my pictures of my 602's and post them I would appreciate it, as I am useless on the computer ?
Dale Z!
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Consistency is the real key. I have three M70s and a M77 so that safety is instantly familiar to me. My brain went into vapor lock one day when I was playing with my M98 and the safety just started speaking Greek to me. It passed after a very short period but it speaks to the benefits of having the same safety across the board.
BUM .. I am familiar with the M70 wing safety and the M77 tang safety -- seems to me these are pretty different mechanism's - if these work for you not sure why an M98 would be a huge transition.
Personally, although the subject of safeties on these rifles keeps coming up ... it seems (at least for me anyway) this is a non issue ... I like my BRNO's with their very robust safety, and I like my Sako's despite their side safety operating in an "opposite manner" .. and I like my Remington 7600 and 870's with their cross bolt safety and my M305/Voere 2185 with their trigger housing safety and a Mannlicher Schoenauer with its wing safety etc, and I had no problem with the side safeties on the C1/2, C7 and BHP (and even the SMG - although I hate to admit it) over 25 years.
It occurs to me that if folks are befuddled by how a safety engages they may not be approaching the use of a safety - ON or OFF - as a "conscious" act that should only be done in a deliberate fashion. And (personal opinion only) - those are the folks I dont enjoy hunting with.
FWIW - I remember being with a number of American guardsman doing annual qualifications on their issued wpns .. in one day ..870 Remington, M16, M203, M79, 1911, and M14 on a round robin. I dont recall witnessing one person having a problem operating the respective safeties after a 5 minute morning briefing from an NCO. And the US military places a lot of emphasis on "manual at arms" similarity ... nothing more dangerous than an armed enemy/military opponent that requires immediate reaction!
For me - the only thing I need to remember is that my safety is ALWAYS on until I decide to change that condition and shoot something. But I guess this is a personal thing. Pity because folks that find the transition to a BRNO ZKK safety difficult are missing out on an extraordinary firearm!
Personally, although the subject of safeties on these rifles keeps coming up ... it seems (at least for me anyway) this is a non issue ... I like my BRNO's with their very robust safety, and I like my Sako's despite their side safety operating in an "opposite manner" .. and I like my Remington 7600 and 870's with their cross bolt safety and my M305/Voere 2185 with their trigger housing safety and a Mannlicher Schoenauer with its wing safety etc, and I had no problem with the side safeties on the C1/2, C7 and BHP (and even the SMG - although I hate to admit it) over 25 years.
It occurs to me that if folks are befuddled by how a safety engages they may not be approaching the use of a safety - ON or OFF - as a "conscious" act that should only be done in a deliberate fashion. And (personal opinion only) - those are the folks I dont enjoy hunting with.
FWIW - I remember being with a number of American guardsman doing annual qualifications on their issued wpns .. in one day ..870 Remington, M16, M203, M79, 1911, and M14 on a round robin. I dont recall witnessing one person having a problem operating the respective safeties after a 5 minute morning briefing from an NCO. And the US military places a lot of emphasis on "manual at arms" similarity ... nothing more dangerous than an armed enemy/military opponent that requires immediate reaction!
For me - the only thing I need to remember is that my safety is ALWAYS on until I decide to change that condition and shoot something. But I guess this is a personal thing. Pity because folks that find the transition to a BRNO ZKK safety difficult are missing out on an extraordinary firearm!
- Location
- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
Should an individual have been brought up on 700 Remingtons then handed a ZKK, I think he could be forgiven for some errors in muscle memory. Still, if he endlessly repeats, "#### to fire!" he'll get if figured out . . . I did.
Further to AP's points ^, I believe 'safeties' of all types are overrated as to their contribution to firearm handling ND avoidance.
I've witnessed or experienced a few failures over the decades. Some where mechanical, some of 'em handling screw ups.
To be honest, they all scare the hell outta me. Any firearm with a chambered round in battery is subject to possible discharge at any time is the way I see it. Rarely indeed, .. yes ... but it can happen.
The only times I'll have one up the spout safety 'on' is if hunting alone, and even then not that frequently.
Would rather risk missing out on a shot to the time needed to cycle the action, which also BTW rarely happens .. than share a shooting area with Tom #### and Harry wandering about "hot".
I've witnessed or experienced a few failures over the decades. Some where mechanical, some of 'em handling screw ups.
To be honest, they all scare the hell outta me. Any firearm with a chambered round in battery is subject to possible discharge at any time is the way I see it. Rarely indeed, .. yes ... but it can happen.
The only times I'll have one up the spout safety 'on' is if hunting alone, and even then not that frequently.
Would rather risk missing out on a shot to the time needed to cycle the action, which also BTW rarely happens .. than share a shooting area with Tom #### and Harry wandering about "hot".
Ok. Since you were kind enough to include me in your awesome thread, here are some pics of a 550 Magnum for comparison. This one is a 07 made unit and has only seen about 75 rounds through it. Bone stock with no mods and no scope (yet). I've carried it several times for moose but no luck connecting with one. Shoots 300gr TSX's into 2" groups with the irons.
