2014 Shot Show: Rossi Circult Judge Revoler Carbine

[wgamble89]

they are coming to canada..... please read the above, the RCMP have declared them all pistols. regardless of barrel or stock length

The only reason these were classed as pistols is because under that wood stalk is a metal frame the same as the pistol and the barrel can be swapped out for one of pistol length. If they were to make a production model for the Canadian market (like Obokash suggested) that had a different frame then they would be a different firearm and get a different FRT and could be non-res. It really wouldn't need much change, just remove the pistol grip handle part of the frame and replace it with a tab of some sort that the the stock could bolt on to.

[F-Tang]

The browning buckmarks carbine frame is different from its pistol brother due to the stocm being intergrated into the frame itself. Where as the rossi's frame is unchanged and the carbine stock attaches the same method as regular pistol grips for that frame do. This is the understanding I have as to why the Rossi got different treatment from the buckmark.

Just curious, what's the mag cap on those Rem carbines? I heard of a revolving shotgun with a 6-round cylinder at SHOT and was wondering if there's precedent set for it to be able to have all 6.

[Gunslinger]

The only reason these were classed as pistols is because under that wood stalk is a metal frame the same as the pistol and the barrel can be swapped out for one of pistol length. If they were to make a production model for the Canadian market (like Obokash suggested) that had a different frame then they would be a different firearm and get a different FRT and could be non-res. It really wouldn't need much change, just remove the pistol grip handle part of the frame and replace it with a tab of some sort that the the stock could bolt on to.

How is this any different than the TC Contender/Encore pistol/carbine variants? Canadian gun laws and classifications are juvenile at best.

[Gunslinger]

Why can't the RCMP just leave us alone and let us buy what we want.

Because it's easier to make paper criminals than catch the real ones. It's like what half of all gov. Employees do, make work, this is what we pay our hard earned taxes for.

[king cobra]

the more i look at them, the more i want them, regardless of res or non res...

[jjohnwm]

To complete the picture of lunacy, just buy a Rossi Ranch Hand and take a look at the box. Mine came with "THIS IS A HANDGUN" slathered in giant letters across a couple of sides.

This is apparently an easy way for Rossi to avoid having it classed as a SBR (Short Barrel Rifle) in the U.S. Marketing it as a handgun makes that problem go away.

Wouldn't it be nice if some their legal loopholes actually lined up with some of ours once in a while?

[lone-wolf]

Because it's easier to make paper criminals than catch the real ones. It's like what half of all gov. Employees do, make work, this is what we pay our hard earned taxes for.

Make work? Like how they randomly decided that .22cal is suddenly too big for fox hunting on PEI, and now they're thinking of deciding to remove the calibre limitation now, that nobody wanted in the first place.
Or how about the DFO in Ottawa having no one working outside the office, yet still deciding that fishermen suddenly needed to paint boat registration numbers on their buoys.
Or the PEI government suddenly deciding that every islander needs to replace their licenses plates for $5 a piece because apparently some cops were too blind to read the existing license plates.

Ugh.

[Obokash]

they are coming to canada..... please read the above, the RCMP have declared them all pistols. regardless of barrel or stock length

I meant to say NR category acceptable action since the CFC has issue with the current version.

[Moparman1303]

Why are they restricted.

[tiriaq]

Why are they restricted.

Because they are made using a pistol receiver.