2014 SHOT SHOW: Double barreled guns. Really!

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Double barreled shotguns are commonplace, and while old English-style double barreled break action hunting rifles are horrendously expensive, they are well known.

However, these two unrelated designs are almost unheard of until now.

The first is the Gilboa Snake, from Israel. It is essentially two "Siamese twin" AR15/M16 rifles. The Gilboa series of rifles is made by Silver Shadow. Gilboa believes that firing two rounds simultaneously, rather than ~1/10th of a second apart, is the better way. This gun will be available in full auto to agencies, or semi for civilians. The FA version has a single trigger for both sides, while the civvy model will require a pair of triggers, one per side.
It is chambered for 5.56x45. They insist it is not just an engineering exercise, but a real combat rifle. The Gilboa line also includes more traditional single barrel AR15/M16 rifles.










A completely unrelated "Siamese twin" pistol is the AF2011-A1 from Arsenal Firearms SRL, in Italy.
Two 1911's side by side makes quite a handful. This first appeared as a bit of a gag, but is now in production.
It is available in 45ACP of course, and .38 Super. 10mm will be available soon.
It is imported by EAA in the USA, and Interammo in Canada. Price is about $4500.






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Actually, the "Cornershot" seems to be more interesting. I thought this was only a joke until I saw the ad in the picture.
 
Interesting but not as impressive as the Szecsei-Fuchs double barrel bolt action rifle. Likely cheaper the the bolt action as well it's valued at 80,000.
 
Onagoth said:
How exactly does one zero a double barrel rifle
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Exactly what I was wondering, just thinking out loud but it seems to me.
If the barrels are parallel then there will always be a blind spot between the shots and the windage will always be off and will get worse the longer the shot.
If they are canted in slightly then the rifle is only accurate at one fixed range.
Appears to me to be a pray and spray type firearm, or am I missing something?
 
hicaliber said:
Exactly what I was wondering, just thinking out loud but it seems to me.
If the barrels are parallel then there will always be a blind spot between the shots and the windage will always be off and will get worse the longer the shot.
If they are canted in slightly then the rifle is only accurate at one fixed range.
Appears to me to be a pray and spray type firearm, or am I missing something?
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Seems to me that it might use the same technique as sighting with a side-mounted scope. Either pick a specific range at which the sights will align with the path of the bullet, and then figure out the necessary amount of compensation for other ranges. Or you could keep the sights parallel with the bores, so that each point of impact will be on either side of the point of aim.
Not much different from pistols that are sighted for a 12 o'clock hold, just flipped horizontal.
Wouldn't surprise me if it was as easy as a 9 and 3 o'clock hold for each barrel.

Out to practical distances, it wouldn't cause much of an issue as long as you don't get your points of aim mixed up.
 
Hmmm...

...Two rounds of 5.56×45mm weigh approx. 183grX2=366gr and one 7.62×51mm round weighs 393gr.

I would rather carry the .308 than twice as many rounds, mags, etc. not to mention the availability of custom parts.

Not practical, but I guess if you are a rich person that enjoys collecting novelties...
 
Well, kind of simple really, or extremely simple, the left barrel will be a half inch to the left, the right will be a half inch to the right. Considering red dots are 1 to 3 MOA, I dont think it would be that much of a problem. I dont think a half inch would mean "Spray and pay" All said and done, they just seem like novelty items to me, the rifle appears to feed from one mag, making me think its a single trigger, so pointless to be double barrel. And just as pointless to have two triggers like the handguns do lol.

IF I had so many guns and so much money and I already owned a Desert Eagle, I'd maybe buy one.

 
Jeff Cooper once said (paraphrasing here) "You'll make no friends at SHOT by asking 'What's it for?'"

The rifle and the fat-arsed 1911 are both answers to questions no one's asked, unless the question is "How can I make a pretty simple device twice as heavy and complicated without actually innovating anything?"
 
Dark Alley Dan said:
Jeff Cooper once said (paraphrasing here) "You'll make no friends at SHOT by asking 'What's it for?'"

The rifle and the fat-arsed 1911 are both answers to questions no one's asked, unless the question is "How can I make a pretty simple device twice as heavy and complicated without actually innovating anything?"
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...the grip panel medallions are new!?:p
 
THe gilboa actually takes dual mags, so both bbls are feeding and firing at the same time. Clearing jams would be a bugger though :p

Yah, neat idea to make for fun, but no idea really what the merits would be.

BCshooterFMJ said:
Well, kind of simple really, or extremely simple, the left barrel will be a half inch to the left, the right will be a half inch to the right. Considering red dots are 1 to 3 MOA, I dont think it would be that much of a problem. I dont think a half inch would mean "Spray and pay" All said and done, they just seem like novelty items to me, the rifle appears to feed from one mag, making me think its a single trigger, so pointless to be double barrel. And just as pointless to have two triggers like the handguns do lol.

IF I had so many guns and so much money and I already owned a Desert Eagle, I'd maybe buy one.

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