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    TDSA would like you to sign an e-petition to support Motion M-452

    This is probably posted in several places on CGN already, but here goes anyway:

    Please support MP Cheryl Gallant’s Motion M-452 the establishment of a permanent “Firearms Experts Technical Committee” to oversee such things as firearms reclassifications, and impose a moratorium on firearms reclassification until the permanent committee is in place.

    To sign this petition, click here.

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    No thank you.

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    I'll pass, too. Long story short: If the government is trying a pitch to keep gun-voters, why accept the first offer? We can hold out for a better deal, with the reforms we need, not the compromises they impose.
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    (v) shall be composed of the following members, 1) RCMP, 2) Ontario Forensic Centre, 3) four individuals appointed to the committee as civilian firearms experts.

    Appointed by who??? For a term of how long? Requirements for being an expert?

    Is this the same motion that was rejected by the NFA? This motion was put forth originally on October 16, 2013 and got considerable push back here. Everyone cheered at first, thinking change was good. Then people started reading it and trying to decipher it.

    It wasn't what was needed then, and still isn't the solution we need now. Another band aid fix to a broken firearms act.
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    I'll pass as well. For all of the reasons above.
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    Cheryl Gallant means well BUT her Private Member's Bill is not the answer. It leaves the whole classification & prohibition mess intact. I can NOT support it for this reason!

    The ONLY solution to this whole mess is to repeal the Firearms Act and replace it with legislation that respects the rights of Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly! And it MUST be done BEFORE the next election, I will NOT allow this to be the promise in the next election to get my vote! The CPC is either going to fix this NOW or they will lose my support both financially AND at the ballot box! NO COMPROMISE!

    Here is the letter I wrote the PM immediately after the amnesty announcement... Voice your opinion folks, it's the ONLY thing that will get their attention to fix this mess!

    Dear Prime Minister Harper;

    I think we can agree, the recent firearm reclassification fiasco has caused much embarrassment to the Conservative Government of Canada and damaged its loyal Conservative support base. Unbelievably, after the RCMP was publically admonished in the House of Commons by your Minister of Public Safety Steven Blaney, the RCMP turned around and DID IT AGAIN by prohibiting a second type of rifle! I honestly can not believe their audacity!

    Initially, I was happy to see Minister Blaney announce an amnesty to begin to address this bureaucratic miscarriage of justice by the RCMP. And then I got to thinking what the term 'amnesty' actually means. Here is what I found;
    Amnesty by definition
    1. a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.
    2. an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole.
    3. a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense.

    Prime Minister Harper, how ironic is it that I need an amnesty to prevent the RCMP from seizing my private property and charging me with possession of a prohibited firearm, not to mention that I would face three years in prison, WHEN I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG!

    I think it is abundantly clear to you now that there is only one acceptable fix for this situation, the Firearms Act must be rescinded BEFORE the next election. Nothing short of this will make me happy OR see me vote Conservative in the next election. Promises of future fixes will not cut it! Sweeping legislative changes must be enacted to recognize the rights of Canadians to own and use firearms responsibly.

    There can be NO COMPROMISE!
    Wing Nut

    "No man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson.

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    Having said that, I can't permit myself to criticize the people who do suggest supporting this motion.

    I myself (this time last year) circulated her petition in support of Bill M-439 at the Saskatoon gun show and got 5 pages of signatures. It felt good and purposeful to be doing something rather than nothing. I'm a bit embarassed looking back on it, because my fervor to make a difference had me buying into a compromise.

    I've since forgiven myself and decided to do better in the future.
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    I do believe that the time for band aids and duct tape is over. FIX THE WHOLE DAMN THING.
    My fear is that this motion will leave the door wide open for the next government to simply appoint a group of antis as the head of this commitee. And we'll be right back here without ANY backing from the party in power. Meagre as the CPC's support has been as of late.

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