CZ 958 "Teaser # 2" :)

Status
Not open for further replies.
Mr Wolverine said:
That makes it impossible to retro fit FA parts, assuming a person could find or make them. A person would have to mill out the internal receiver to have space to fit the parts and when that is attempted the mill would break through the receiver and render it useless! The ease of conversion to FA is a consideration with all new imports.
Click to expand...

Other than "once a converted receiver - always a converted receiver" - wouldn't retro-milling existing semi-auto receivers with the same cut-out prevent the addition of FA part?

L
 
lmar said:
Other than "once a converted receiver - always a converted receiver" - wouldn't retro-milling existing semi-auto receivers with the same cut-out prevent the addition of FA part?

L
Click to expand...
Good idea, but how would the cops be trained to discern one receiver from the other?
 
lmar said:
Other than "once a converted receiver - always a converted receiver" - wouldn't retro-milling existing semi-auto receivers with the same cut-out prevent the addition of FA part?

L
Click to expand...

No, because if you milled into a regular 858 from the outside the mill would break into nothing. The CZ 958 was designed so it would be impossible to machine from the inside of the receiver to accept FA trigger parts by having these "scaloped" cuts next to the trigger pivot on the outside of the receiver.
 
Outwest1213 said:
I have asked this same question many times and it has been avoided being answered. I seems to me a "958" has not been submitted yet to the RCMP so I would say couple years wait still.
Click to expand...

The issue of an FRT is NOT a statutory requirement, that is why I have been avoided answering this question. Please be patient and allow me some "elbow room" as when working with Government things never happen quickly.
 
ridgearms said:
Thank you for answering my questions. For the the Hunter, my only concern with a threaded barrel that doesn't have the stock front base is properly securing the brake. Since the brake will have to be removed each time for cleaning we can't loctite it in place. Also, no detent pin from the FSB available. I have an FSN-01K and it uses a set screw. My threads got buggered up from that. I don't think it is the best solution. I hope you can develop a better solution.

Also, I will echo mileageman below. It would be best to have a railed gas block on the hunter so that BUIS can be added with a good amount of sight distance.

Thank you for listening to my feedback on the models. I hope you can share what some of your plans are so that we can give some opinions. Also, please let us know if we can pre-order.



I'm with you on the railed gas block. See above. John will likely thread the hunter but nothing is final.
Click to expand...

You make valid points but my first consideration is "speed" and "cost" of production. There will be room for some entrepreneurs to manufacture railed gas blocks etc. if I try to make the design be everything for everyone we will just incur further delays and increase production costs. I think the two basic models will meet the requirements of the majority.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
The issue of an FRT is NOT a statutory requirement, that is why I have been avoided answering this question. Please be patient and allow me some "elbow room" as when working with Government things never happen quickly.
Click to expand...

My apologies sir. I was under the assumption all firearms needed a FRT # which would mean the long wait. Keep up the hard work while us with itchy trigger fingers try to wait patiently. Lol
 
Outwest1213 said:
My apologies sir. I was under the assumption all firearms needed a FRT # which would mean the long wait. Keep up the hard work while us with itchy trigger fingers try to wait patiently. Lol
Click to expand...

No apology required. This is a tough industry as we are completely unorganised with no clear leadership or direction and often we work in opposing directions to each other, which causes time consuming processes to take longer than they should. All to often Government Policies are accepted as law.
 
Mr Wolverine said:
You make valid points but my first consideration is "speed" and "cost" of production. There will be room for some entrepreneurs to manufacture railed gas blocks etc. if I try to make the design be everything for everyone we will just incur further delays and increase production costs. I think the two basic models will meet the requirements of the majority.
Click to expand...

If it is the standard gas block I am sure NEA can rejuvenate their railed gas block and change the height to match the receiver rail if there is enough demand. I would just kindly ask that you deal with the muzzle device issue without having a pin to secure it. That should be a relatively cheap fix. Also, would like to know if you will have a preorder system.
 
ridgearms said:
If it is the standard gas block I am sure NEA can rejuvenate their railed gas block and change the height to match the receiver rail if there is enough demand. I would just kindly ask that you deal with the muzzle device issue without having a pin to secure it. That should be a relatively cheap fix. Also, would like to know if you will have a preorder system.
Click to expand...

With no front sight tower there is no easy way to have a spring detent to lock the break. I like the clean lines of the "Hunter" with no sight tower. The easiest way to secure the break would be with a grub screw at 6 o'clock. Alternatively one could use a lock nut. To keep cost down I would like to see exactly the same barrel on both models. I am sure there will be an entrepreneur out there who could make a simple knurled thread protector to screw on instead of a break.
 
Pre-order system! This question has been asked:

There will no pre-orders or notify list. When we have a confirmed ETA and price, we will take BACK ORDERS only. A BO is a definite order, we will require your full name, address, phone #, PAL #, date and place of birth (So we can quickly confirm PAL is valid on line) and payment details. No deposit required, when the guns are in stock we will take full payment and ship.\

We also have to work out a fair system so we can allocate some to our stocking dealers, not sure how we will do that at this time.

Grumpy Wolverine suggested we do a "Special Collectors edition" on the first 300 with the appropriate engraving. This would be 300 "Hunters" and 300 "Tactical" so 600 only with a guarantee that they would never be repeated. These would not be cheap, I have no idea on price at this time. I welcome comments :)
 
Mr Wolverine said:
Pre-order system! This question has been asked:

There will no pre-orders or notify list. When we have a confirmed ETA and price, we will take BACK ORDERS only. A BO is a definite order, we will require your full name, address, phone #, PAL #, date and place of birth (So we can quickly confirm PAL is valid on line) and payment details. No deposit required, when the guns are in stock we will take full payment and ship.\

We also have to work out a fair system so we can allocate some to our stocking dealers, not sure how we will do that at this time.

Grumpy Wolverine suggested we do a "Special Collectors edition" on the first 300 with the appropriate engraving. This would be 300 "Hunters" and 300 "Tactical" so 600 only with a guarantee that they would never be repeated. These would not be cheap, I have no idea on price at this time. I welcome comments :)
Click to expand...

How would you make them different?
 
!!!

shutup.jpg


!!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom