2015 SHOT Show: Crosman Benjamin Bulldog .357 air rifle

Ohhh boy... here we go.

You got enough pop-corn for me too? :wave: I don't have the time to explain the difference between a bullpup stock on a conventional rifle and a bullpup rifle today.d:h:
 
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Firehoser said:
I was going to purchase an aftermarket stock for my Marlin 795 .22 http://www.badgerm22.com/index.html made by Badger in Bull-Pup configuration. After going to the RCMP site I was disappointed to learn any firearm manufactured in the Bull-Pup design is prohibited.
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 9
2. Any rifle, shotgun or carbine stock of the type known as the “bull-pup” design, being a stock that, when combined with a firearm, reduces the overall length of the firearm such that a substantial part of the reloading action or the magazine-well is located behind the trigger of the firearm when it is held in the normal firing position.
Good luck getting this into Canada.

Ahhh Poooh!
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JimboJones said:
Ohhh boy... here we go.

You got enough pop-corn for me too? :wave: I don't have the time to explain the difference between a bullpup stock on a conventional rifle and a bullpup rifle today.d:h:
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I may be mistaken. Is it any wonder people get confused?
I guess this is just another example of a poorly written rule. No mention of new or existing firearms or what is or is not permitted. Just a vague description open to interpretation.
 
Firehoser said:
I may be mistaken. Is it any wonder people get confused?
I guess this is just another example of a poorly written rule. No mention of new or existing firearms or what is or is not permitted. Just a vague description open to interpretation.
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That's pretty much the jist of it. We have to rely on the all-knowing all-seeing gurus at the firearms lab to determine on a case by case basis really. Currently "the test" is whether or not the rifle can be fired without the stock as evidenced by the Walther G22 ruling. (Even "the test" is open to interpretation... :rolleyes: ) Although, if the stock is after-market, or even added to an existing rifle action by the manufacturer, it's definitely a no go.

With regard to the Bulldog .357, it's kind of moot to argue the bullpup issue anyway. Because if it does indeed have integral sound suppression, we won't see it here anyway. :(
 
...and sound suppression should be a must...we have very specific rules for the workplace where it is DEMANDED by the beaurocrats that we protect our hearing...and we have the ability to protect our hearing AND take away a nuisance factor of property owners while hunting...sound suppressors...WTF
 
IchBinEinSniper said:
...and sound suppression should be a must...we have very specific rules for the workplace where it is DEMANDED by the beaurocrats that we protect our hearing...and we have the ability to protect our hearing AND take away a nuisance factor of property owners while hunting...sound suppressors...WTF
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We also have to put them on our cars.
 
Just got an email from Gravel Agency (listed for Canada on the Crossman site)

"We are looking at availability for March 2015. We have not yet received our list of Crosman bookings for 2015 so we don’t know which store has ordered some. Our friends at the Canadian Firearms Program are still looking at it. We are confident that things will run smoothly thus the planned March availability. "
 
Firehoser said:
I was going to purchase an aftermarket stock for my Marlin 795 .22 http://www.badgerm22.com/index.html made by Badger in Bull-Pup configuration. After going to the RCMP site I was disappointed to learn any firearm manufactured in the Bull-Pup design is prohibited.
Former Prohibited Weapons Order, No. 9
2. Any rifle, shotgun or carbine stock of the type known as the “bull-pup” design, being a stock that, when combined with a firearm, reduces the overall length of the firearm such that a substantial part of the reloading action or the magazine-well is located behind the trigger of the firearm when it is held in the normal firing position.
Good luck getting this into Canada.

Ahhh Poooh!
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Welcome to CGN, firehoser.
Yes, the rules are confusing.
I highlighted the word stock, as it is aftermarket stocks that are banned, NOT guns built as bullpup from new.
HTH
 
themarauder said:
Just got an email from Gravel Agency (listed for Canada on the Crossman site)

"We are looking at availability for March 2015. We have not yet received our list of Crosman bookings for 2015 so we don’t know which store has ordered some. Our friends at the Canadian Firearms Program are still looking at it. We are confident that things will run smoothly thus the planned March availability. "
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Cool....
 
200 Ft/lbs huh? So it has less than half the energy output of a 9mm carbine, costs a dollar a shot, and requires a PAL. I think its a little inappropriate to advertise it for hunting.
 
coleman1495 said:
200 Ft/lbs huh? So it has less than half the energy output of a 9mm carbine, costs a dollar a shot, and requires a PAL. I think its a little inappropriate to advertise it for hunting.
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i agree thats the same energy as a 38 special wadcutter load in a pistol its un ethical
 
themarauder said:
Just got an email from Gravel Agency (listed for Canada on the Crossman site)

"We are looking at availability for March 2015. We have not yet received our list of Crosman bookings for 2015 so we don’t know which store has ordered some. Our friends at the Canadian Firearms Program are still looking at it. We are confident that things will run smoothly thus the planned March availability. "
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Wow! That was unexpected. I guess their baffle-less SoundTrap(tm) shroud doesn't count as a suppressor...nice.

I'll officially add this to my wish list if it gets the green light. :)
 
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