Southern Alberta Tavor Course: It's Happening!

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No aftermarket triggers failed on the course. That was a general reference to other failures that have been seen with after market triggers. Tvpp showed ways to lighten the stock trigger without replacing the stock trigger pack. To around 6lbs.

Needless to say, I won't be changing my trigger system, be it the trigger pack, trigger, or anything in between. Personal preference. The cost isn't justified for me YMMV.

This is quite disturbing. Where did this come from? I know TVPP's Timney broke, as have many in the US and a few in Canada, but I have only heard of one instance where a Giessele broke and it was chalked up to some how slipping through the QC xray checks of the cast hammers.

Fun fact: Giessele hammers are cast in the same foundry with the same metal, using the same process as the OEM IWI Israel hammers. I doubt you will see any Geissles fail unless its a fluke.

See post above. I believe he was talking about the broken triggers you just referenced as they were the ones noted by Tvpp on the course.

There does appear to be a different wear pattern between the two styles of bolt groups.

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I think I am going to start a rifle weigh in thread in the black rifles forum. I always try to keep my systems light, but its so easy to add crap on that you dont use.

I like to strike a balance of weight vs function. I am very pleased with how my Tav has turned out.

My Tavor features the following changes:
-Manticore curved buttpad
-Manticore Luma Safeties (large & slim)
-Fab-defense Tar-Podium
-Giessele Super Sabra sear/hammer pack
-Giessele Lightning Bow
-Gear Head Works front sight post
-Factory mod rail
-Surefire 600u Scout light and tape switch
-front and rear retro-fitted QD cups
-removed ejection port cover (replaced with another ejection port frame)
-double Galloway angled shell deflectors (left and right side)
-Lantac Dragon brake

Weight with a QD Mepro M21: 9lbs 5oz
Weight with an Elcan Specter DR 1-4x: 9lbs 15oz.
Trigger break averages at 3.5lbs.

Very impressive weight considering it has an optic, BUIS, weapon light, and a bipod. TVPP was sure I would need the fish hook to weigh it with the Elcan. Lol proved him wrong

At the end of the day though, the rifle still fealt heavy after doing all those drills.

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My legs are feeling it today for sure. I think we discovered isreali burpees hahaha.

[onetwentyish]

Where is my like button. Damn these forums really need one. Haha

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Me too. I was hobbling around Calgary today haha...

It was good to meet everyone! I like my tavor even more after running it in that class. I'm in for the next one (but I'm going to be in better shape)!

Also, I won't be changing the trigger either. Works fine, and my trigger pull was a hair over 10lb.

My rifle, basically stock with a vickers sling and an Eotech 512 was less than an ounce over 9lb.

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How was Lovie's personal Tavor set up? Was her trigger stock?
Did you guys end up with the angled mag coupler for quick mag changes? Or was the heel bump technique taught?

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How was Lovie's personal Tavor set up? Was her trigger stock?
Did you guys end up with the angled mag coupler for quick mag changes? Or was the heel bump technique taught?

Lovie had a Tavor when she was in the IDF. An x95 if i recall correctly. She used TVPP'S Tavor. She was surprised to see so many people changing the triggers. She saw no issues with the stock trigger.

The heal bump technique for removing the mag is not an IDF practice. It's a civilian "look at what I just thought up" gimmick. Most shooters were using a mag couple. Single mag changes from a pouch.

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Lovie had a Tavor when she was in the IDF. An x95 if i recall correctly. She used TVPP'S Tavor. She was surprised to see so many people changing the triggers. She saw no issues with the stock trigger.

The heal bump technique for removing the mag is not an IDF practice. It's a civilian "look at what I just thought up" gimmick. Most shooters were using a mag couple. Single mag changes from a pouch.

She must have loved TVPP's gun! Or 120ish!
I did a Tavor thread 5 months ago with my impressions. Take a peek at it. You'll see what I said about the stock trigger.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum...Lessons-learnt!
I can see how the heel bump is more tactical than practical!!

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She must have loved TVPP's gun! Or 120ish!
I did a Tavor thread 5 months ago with my impressions. Take a peek at it. You'll see what I said about the stock trigger.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum...Lessons-learnt!
I can see how the heel bump is more tactical than practical!!

She said that Tvpp tavor was similar in overall size to hers, but complained about his 6lb trigger mods which deleted the two stage trigger and trigger reset. So "must have loved" might be a strong assumption.

If something isn't practical, it is less than tactical. Practical wins gun fights. Fancy does not.

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Yeah, anything that was not to spec of the issued IDF Tavors felt different and odd to her, so it wasn't something she preferred.