NC Star Scopes and vz58 rifles

if nc star makes 2 different lines of product...how do we know what is what....if they both look exactly the same...and we have to take the "word" of the guy selling them for a profit on which is what....how do we know that the one we are getting is legit?

Maybe they should make them in 2 different series...and make them look different, or have different names..like other scopes do i.e. (crossfire >>>>razor) so the customer knows what they are getting?

Exactly. Well said. The onus of full disclosure should be on the company, especially if they are aware of misrepresentation going on by some dealers.
 
some of the offerings on marstar's site would be PERFECT for my vz58 if it was in 5.56 caliber instead of 7.62x39. i really wish they had 7.62x39 BDC options as well :(.

edit: like this one seems good

http://www.marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=75845

Up here in Canada we have absolutely no good affordable options for 7.62x39 BDC reticle.

Only choices we have are the Nikon 300 blackout lines and Acogs... both options are $800+...

I have given up at trying to get a Primary Arms optic over and am now deciding on a fixed power P4 reticle Ncstar or a non magnified microdot...
 
I use the Mark III Tactical Gen 2 model on my Vz.58 with the side mount.

I went with this one because I found other variable power scopes tended to hang over the breech and then get constantly smacked by ejected brass leading to cases bouncing back into the chamber. Rather annoying.

My thoughts? The first one I bought earlier this year (April/May) had the ocular lens pop out after a little more than 3,000 rounds and Marstar very kindly replaced it. The replacement has only been on my Vz.58 for about 1,000 rounds but so far it seems to be working. Is it the equivalent of a mid- to high-end scope? No, it costs $140 for a reason. That said, it works pretty well for what it is. Decent eye relief, clear image with not much distortion and it holds zero. I won't speak to ruggedness as my first experience with this scope didn't end well and until I have thousands of rounds more on the rifle with this scope on it, I won't be able to form a particularly informed opinion on that aspect.

Short version: I don't hate this scope, and I do hate easily.
 
I had an NC Star scope that didn't last one shot, to me that is pure junk. Thats enough to scare me away from them.
 
I use the Mark III Tactical Gen 2 model on my Vz.58 with the side mount.

I went with this one because I found other variable power scopes tended to hang over the breech and then get constantly smacked by ejected brass leading to cases bouncing back into the chamber. Rather annoying.

My thoughts? The first one I bought earlier this year (April/May) had the ocular lens pop out after a little more than 3,000 rounds and Marstar very kindly replaced it. The replacement has only been on my Vz.58 for about 1,000 rounds but so far it seems to be working. Is it the equivalent of a mid- to high-end scope? No, it costs $140 for a reason. That said, it works pretty well for what it is. Decent eye relief, clear image with not much distortion and it holds zero. I won't speak to ruggedness as my first experience with this scope didn't end well and until I have thousands of rounds more on the rifle with this scope on it, I won't be able to form a particularly informed opinion on that aspect.

Short version: I don't hate this scope, and I do hate easily.

DING DING DING DING! Exactly what I am planning on doing. Got some pics? I am thinking of getting the Armored Mark iii models. The SRT I think they're called. Do you find you are forced to be too close to the scope due to the length?
 
DING DING DING DING! Exactly what I am planning on doing. Got some pics? I am thinking of getting the Armored Mark iii models. The SRT I think they're called. Do you find you are forced to be too close to the scope due to the length?

No, I actually find the eye relief to be comfortable. I was worried that having a compact scope would cause issues but the way I have it set up is comfortable for me.

Here's a poor picture of it that I took a few weeks ago when I last had it out at the range. I probably could (and should) move the scope a bit forward but I'm paranoid after my last scope (longer in length) was constantly being hammered by brass. I won't because the damned thing works and every time I tinker I end up screwing something up:

vzscope.jpg
 
Exactly. Well said. The onus of full disclosure should be on the company, especially if they are aware of misrepresentation going on by some dealers.

exactly.....well said also

maybe the company is misrepresenting its product....to attract the types of dealers who do this. Im not saying marstar does....but how come nc star doesn't address this issue....in my opinion, they simply don't care...its simply a marketing strategy......

myself I went with the Hi-Lux AK CMR.....wont mention the dealer out of respect for the thread...but its a great scope for the 7.62x39 caliber...and the only truly dedicated com bloc ballistic reticle I could find...other than some of the side mount Russian stuff...which are decent scopes...but sit awkwardly high and off center for a comfortable, static.. cheek weld...
 
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No, I actually find the eye relief to be comfortable. I was worried that having a compact scope would cause issues but the way I have it set up is comfortable for me.

Here's a poor picture of it that I took a few weeks ago when I last had it out at the range. I probably could (and should) move the scope a bit forward but I'm paranoid after my last scope (longer in length) was constantly being hammered by brass. I won't because the damned thing works and every time I tinker I end up screwing something up:

Do you have the low CSA mount or the high one? Looks good! Also, is that the variable power or the fixed 4x?
 
Problem with the CSA Side mount is it sits so high up even when you replace the but stock with one that you can raise the cheek weld it is still too high. You would be better off with a magwedge rail or the receiver cover mount
 
Problem with the CSA Side mount is it sits so high up even when you replace the but stock with one that you can raise the cheek weld it is still too high. You would be better off with a magwedge rail or the receiver cover mount

i have the low profile side mount..
 
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