IPSC Open division - STI Trubor or Matchmaster?

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I have been toying with the idea lately about jumping from Production/Classic in IPSC to either Open or Standard. With my near eyesight getting older all the time I think the wise idea would be open. I am quite happy with my various 1911 platforms so I think that a 2011 setup would be the best. Down to a couple choices for STI, either the Trubor or Matchmaster. Looks like they are close to the same price, but could use some advice on which way would be better. Would be looking at shooting 9mm major.
 
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It's hard to steer you one way or the other with the Matchmaster and Trubor.

The difference between the two guns is how they feel - which is very personal.

The Matchmaster with it's shorter slide and shorter barrel has less momentum for target to target swings, but it's a little more "blasty" (if that's a word) since the comp is closer to your face and the slide is so light.
The Trubor is a bit softer shooting; being longer & heavier, but carries more momentum in transitions due to it's unaltered slide and longer barrel.

I shoot a matchmaster and love it. We sell just as many of one as the other these days.
 
Thanks for the input, will be looking at purchasing around the end of March (happily out of the country for a bit) Do you normally carry both in stock in 9mm?
 
Thanks for the input, will be looking at purchasing around the end of March (happily out of the country for a bit) Do you normally carry both in stock in 9mm?
As of right now, I have one blue Trubor in 9mm in stock, one hard chrome Match Master 9mm in stock and 3 blue 9mm ones. I expect more Trubors in hard chrome and blue in about 4-6 weeks.
So yes, they're normally stocked guns.

Trubor all the way, now just the 9mm major or 38super
We sell ten 9mm Majors for every one 38 super Open gun these days.
 
I would recommend trying to see if you can find a friendly open class shooter and put a few rounds down range through either option. Personally I find the difference in blast and recoil makes the longer slide much more preferable, opinions vary but if you don't like the 'blasty' shorter slide it's best to find out before you buy the gun :)
 
thanks can you comment on the differences between the match master and the steel master please

Jeff


It's hard to steer you one way or the other with the Matchmaster and Trubor.

The difference between the two guns is how they feel - which is very personal.

The Matchmaster with it's shorter slide and shorter barrel has less momentum for target to target swings, but it's a little more "blasty" (if that's a word) since the comp is closer to your face and the slide is so light.
The Trubor is a bit softer shooting; being longer & heavier, but carries more momentum in transitions due to it's unaltered slide and longer barrel.

I shoot a matchmaster and love it. We sell just as many of one as the other these days.
 
thanks can you comment on the differences between the match master and the steel master please

Jeff

Sure.

The matchmaster is set up for 9mm major (Handloads only) and then steelmaster is set up for 9mm minor (factory).
You void warranty if you shoot major out of the steelmaster and the matchmaster likely won't cycle 9mm minor ammo.

The steelmaster is targeted at someone wanting to shoot steel challenge type shooting or plinking while the matchmaster is targeted at IPSC.

All are in stock now.
 
could one shoot the steelmaster with major loads and not worry about any problems, (if one knows how to reload properly like an experienced IPSC shooter)

asking as I will be reloading (have for 35 years) and may be using major loads if I compete but not necessarily using major loads for casual range use,

one would think it would stand up but just asking

and do you sell 10 to 1 matchmaster and the steelmaster might be a little harder to sell, (anything will sell if you lower the price 200 bucks )


Sure.

The matchmaster is set up for 9mm major (Handloads only) and then steelmaster is set up for 9mm minor (factory).
You void warranty if you shoot major out of the steelmaster and the matchmaster likely won't cycle 9mm minor ammo.

The steelmaster is targeted at someone wanting to shoot steel challenge type shooting or plinking while the matchmaster is targeted at IPSC.

All are in stock now.
 
You can be reloading for 90 years - major 9 is major 9 whoever you are...and the Steelmaster is not set up for major loads; using it as shipped with major loads will beat the crap out of it.
Customization would be required and you'd need to seek the advice & talents of a custom pistolmith for that info / work.

If you're going to shoot major 9 - our recommendation is to get a trubor or matchmaster - they're built for it.

I don't understand what you're asking in the second question, sorry...
 
thanks now I know to try one of each and then decide on 9mm major or minor,

the second question was in reference to your comment in post 5 I think where you indicate you sell 10 guns in 9mm major to every one in 38 super SO

My question was it would seem the steel master might be a bit of a slower seller because the match,aster can handle all loads that function

if the steel master is designed for lighter loads then folks may not order it in case they wish to shoot major or hotter loads,

If I have that correct, just thinking on whether the major is something I can handle or whether minor might make me happy

one last question if I may

Minor loads in the matchmaster may not cycle the gun properly but would medium loads work the action properly as I am unsure of major loads until I try one

or should I just take more mess and go away,
Thanks you are very well spoken in your posts and that is why I ask

Not trying to take up too much time but wish to quicken the learning curve to buy another gun rather than just wait for summer,

Jeff
 
thanks now I know to try one of each and then decide on 9mm major or minor,

the second question was in reference to your comment in post 5 I think where you indicate you sell 10 guns in 9mm major to every one in 38 super SO

My question was it would seem the steel master might be a bit of a slower seller because the match,aster can handle all loads that function

if the steel master is designed for lighter loads then folks may not order it in case they wish to shoot major or hotter loads,

If I have that correct, just thinking on whether the major is something I can handle or whether minor might make me happy

one last question if I may

Minor loads in the matchmaster may not cycle the gun properly but would medium loads work the action properly as I am unsure of major loads until I try one

or should I just take more mess and go away,
Thanks you are very well spoken in your posts and that is why I ask

Not trying to take up too much time but wish to quicken the learning curve to buy another gun rather than just wait for summer,

Jeff

dude just get the match master in 9 major. 38 SC is too expensive hence why 9 major guns are selling 10:1. the steel master is literally useless in this country because there are no steel challenge S.A sanctioned matches in canada that im aware of.
 
that is what I am trying to determine
If hardly anybody buys a steel master then the match master might be a better choice for resale, but I hope to keep the gun for a few years, (but if I buy a gun and do not like it in 2 weeks I dislike having to lose 1200 beans to get rid of it because everyone wants the other pistol)

thanks for your answer
Jeff


dude just get the match master in 9 major. 38 SC is too expensive hence why 9 major guns are selling 10:1. the steel master is literally useless in this country because there are no steel challenge S.A sanctioned matches in canada that im aware of.
 
try to find someone who has a trubor or try to find someone who owns a matchmaster and shoot both and see which one feels better. really both a trubor or a matchmaster in 9 major will sell.
 
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