My last comment - on the Tdsa website Scott says he has taught 400 people in the last 15 or so years - that's not a lot. Aaron who is the lead instructor for this advanced course is not listed on the Tdsa website and has no bio. Maybe it's just communication but we wasted a lot of time, forget about unused ammo, driving to and from Silverdale etc on Tdsa. Buyer beware. Working in all those close combat physical skills Aaron talks about takes time away from firearm instruction - hence my point about talk vs instruction