M-305 rifles

Heads up everyone

These are moving faster than we anticipated

C-M305-COMBO-1 is now sold out
C-M305-COMBO-2 is still available in limited quantities

We are working on making a C-M305-COMBO-3 with a different scope, should be up shortly
 
Mark-II said:
Appreciate the package deal, but How well is a cheap scope going to stand up to that jackhammer of a rifle?
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We have sold hundreds and hundreds of these scopes for use on the M-305, very satisfactory....
Besides there is our warranty.
John
 
johnone said:
We have sold hundreds and hundreds of these scopes for use on the M-305, very satisfactory....
Besides there is our warranty.
John
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Your warranty is golden - second to none. I'd still rather not use it, however!

But if you say that the scopes are up to it, that's good enough for me.
 
Odd Shot said:
Norinco has "generous" parameters of "normal" acceptable tolerances when it comes to alignment of the front sight and flash hider, as well as the indexing of the barrel (some are screwed on too far, tilting the barrel and front sight to the left, and some are not screwed on enough, tilting the barrel and sight to the right)
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I suppose that an improperly indexed barrel would also translate into imporper headspacing as the barrel screws in and out. A very small amout I know but damn it Norinco get your s*** together.
 
C-M305-COMBO-3 is now available

Featuring a 3-12X50 30mm scope

https://www.marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=91479

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Odd Shot said:
Norinco has "generous" parameters of "normal" acceptable tolerances when it comes to alignment of the front sight and flash hider, as well as the indexing of the barrel (some are screwed on too far, tilting the barrel and front sight to the left, and some are not screwed on enough, tilting the barrel and sight to the right)
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One wonders why Marstar didn't just have its gunsmiths correct this...but it's a great opportunity for m305 fans.
 
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johnsmith3791 said:
One wonders why Marstar didn't just have its gunsmiths correct this...but it's a great opportunity for m305 fans.
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I think the time involved in correcting it would not be cost efficient personally. Man hours/labour cost money. Also maybe some other minor factors with doing the work in house too. I could be wrong but that's what I'm thinking.
 
My original M-305 had a canted sight. A new NM flash hider fixed it.

I don't know if anyone on CGN ever ran a poll as to whether 305 owners had bad flash hiders or out of index barrels. It'd be interesting to see which is the more common issue. I'd wager it's the flash hider.
 
Agreed. Not to say all the barrels are properly indexed though.


Mark-II said:
My original M-305 had a canted sight. A new NM flash hider fixed it.

I don't know if anyone on CGN ever ran a poll as to whether 305 owners had bad flash hiders or out of index barrels. It'd be interesting to see which is the more common issue. I'd wager it's the flash hider.
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Odd Shot said:
Norinco has "generous" parameters of "normal" acceptable tolerances when it comes to alignment of the front sight and flash hider, as well as the indexing of the barrel (some are screwed on too far, tilting the barrel and front sight to the left, and some are not screwed on enough, tilting the barrel and sight to the right)
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captainamazing said:
I suppose that an improperly indexed barrel would also translate into imporper headspacing as the barrel screws in and out. A very small amout I know but damn it Norinco get your s*** together.
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Hah,hah, it's the roll of the dice depending on which schoolgirl slapped it together at the Norc factory that week, as our M14 guru often alludes to.
(BTW, I don't know why I'm saying this, but this is a joke OK,... so nobody get their panties in a knot. Political correctness disclaimer, unless someone's actually seen schoolgirls working there.) ;-P

QUOTE=sigrunes;12521627]I think the time involved in correcting it would not be cost efficient personally. Man hours/labour cost money. Also maybe some other minor factors with doing the work in house too. I could be wrong but that's what I'm thinking.[/QUOTE]

This is all fixable with enrollment in one of Barney's (Tactical Teacher's) M14 clinics, which do not cost a mint, and are super fun. No biggie.
If he ever runs a clinic near you, I highly recommend going to one. You'll learn how to tear these babies down and put it back together better than it came from the factory. You'll be amazed at how simple it is.
And, the side benefit is that you'll learn the intimate inner workings of your M14/M305 rifle better than you ever would have otherwise. Win-win.
 
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El_Monty457 said:
Hah,hah, it's the roll of the dice depending on which schoolgirl slapped it together at the Norc factory that week, as our M14 guru often alludes to.
(BTW, I don't know why I'm saying this, but this is a joke OK,... so nobody get their panties in a knot. Political correctness disclaimer, unless someone's actually seen schoolgirls working there.) ;-P

QUOTE=sigrunes;12521627]I think the time involved in correcting it would not be cost efficient personally. Man hours/labour cost money. Also maybe some other minor factors with doing the work in house too. I could be wrong but that's what I'm thinking.
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***This is all fixable with enrollment in one of Barney's (Tactical Teacher's) M14 clinics, which do not cost a mint, and are super fun. No biggie.
If he ever runs a clinic near you, I highly recommend going to one. You'll learn how to tear these babies down and put it back together better than it came from the factory. You'll be amazed at how simple it is.
And, the side benefit is that you'll learn the intimate inner workings of your M14/M305 rifle better than you ever would have otherwise. Win-win.[/QUOTE]***

I have owned several m305's and still have 2 , I also have a Springfield m1a loaded. I'm familiar with the platform somewhat , no expert but I've torn a few apart and upgraded stuff on them. It is a great platform I agree. A flash hider change is fairly easy if that's the issue but a barrel index is a little more work and tools, vices , no go/go gauges etc. are needed. Hence the time and effort it would take if the latter is the issue. A business would surely put the item on a little sale then deal with with the hassle I'm thinking.
 
sigrunes said:
I have owned several m305's and still have 2 , I also have a Springfield m1a loaded. I'm familiar with the platform somewhat , no expert but I've torn a few apart and upgraded stuff on them. It is a great platform I agree. A flash hider change is fairly easy if that's the issue but a barrel index is a little more work and tools, vices , no go/go gauges etc. are needed. Hence the time and effort it would take if the latter is the issue. A business would surely put the item on a little sale then deal with with the hassle I'm thinking.
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That's the beauty of Barney's M14 clinics. He provides those tools at the clinic. He has a barrel vice and headspace gauge, etc. You only need to bring basic tools. And he walks you (the class) through it all. Just check out the tactical teacher forum and look for the M14 clinic threads. People take turns at indexing their barrels or even installing a new one. And he also has a chamber reamer. I know not everybody can go to or is near his clinics, but for those that can, if you own an M14, jump on it, just my 2 cents. I've been to 2 of them, and had tons of fun and met some other great M14 and Garand owners. This talk should really take place on his forum, but I figure for this one time it fits hand-in-hand with Marstar's M305 offering, since people can know at least one option for dealing with the offset front sight and not to fear it or let it dampen a good deal.
I'll wrap it up now, I think I've rambled on enough.
And no, I am in no way connected to Barney's courses, except for being a satisfied former customer/student. ;=D
Cheers.
 
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