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    Could someone please name the politician who is reviving Payette's dead bill? I cant find anything about it in the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSYLNZ View Post
    Could someone please name the politician who is reviving Payette's dead bill? I cant find anything about it in the news.
    Joan Fraser:

    http://www.parl.gc.ca/SenatorsBio/senator_biography.aspx?senator_id=142


    Be aware that she has not revived it (yet, anyway).

    What she's done is ask the Speaker for more time to actually read the damned thing, which was granted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Islay View Post
    Joan Fraser:

    http://www.parl.gc.ca/SenatorsBio/senator_biography.aspx?senator_id=142


    Be aware that she has not revived it (yet, anyway).

    What she's done is ask the Speaker for more time to actually read the damned thing, which was granted.
    Thanks for the response. So should we not all be sending her letters, respectful in tone, but clearly stating that this bill is ineffective, outrageous, and an infringement upon the rights of law abiding citizens, and that we will work tirelessly against any part of the government that tries to pass this or similar legislation. She may find it a little overwhelming and not worth it when all her means of communication are swamped with protest letters from gun enthusiasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gord1986 View Post
    Can they really force you to turn them in without compensation? Wouldn't that violate the charter of rights?
    Yes, they can.

    Someone said below "since they are giving you a choice, no compensation" - that is not true. The choice doesn't matter.

    In Canada, we do not have property rights. Our ability to own property is not constitutionally protected. The government could create and pass a law banning people from owning cars, and confiscate all the cars tomorrow, and we'd have no LEGAL recourse, really. Parliament has the authority to decide to ban something if they feel it's justified in the interests of public safety or in the interests of society in general.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSYLNZ View Post
    Thanks for the response. So should we not all be sending her letters, respectful in tone, but clearly stating that this bill is ineffective, outrageous, and an infringement upon the rights of law abiding citizens, and that we will work tirelessly against any part of the government that tries to pass this or similar legislation. She may find it a little overwhelming and not worth it when all her means of communication are swamped with protest letters from gun enthusiasts.
    Yes, we should. All of us.
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    Do we have any update on what is happening with this Bill?
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    Quote Originally Posted by slushee View Post
    Do we have any update on what is happening with this Bill?
    Looks like we have to wait till September.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 05RAV View Post
    Looks like we have to wait till September.
    yes nothing going to happen over the summer when no one is sitting.
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    Ugh, I was calm until I started reading more about this again.

    Talk about looking for a solution without a problem.

    People who think banning guns will stop violence are fools. Violence, no matter how it is perpetrated, gun, knife, baseball bat, and as we have seen in Nice, France, by truck, has far deeper causes than "these people should not own item X or Y". Violence has to do with marginalization, violence has socio-economic orgins, violence occurs when people feel helpless.

    Instead of the government looking to waste millions of dollars on this, why not invest more in mental health, treatment of mental illness, etc. The old say "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" applies here. People who go on murderous rampages do so not because they're well adjusted, happy people. They do it because they feel helpless, cast aside, and feel like life has no worth.

    This senator, who I remind us all, was NOT elected. Her cherry-picking of statistics paints a grim picture of us versus socialist European democracies is disingenuous at best.

    The penalty for good men and women not becoming involved in politics is to have decisions made for them by lesser ones.

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    Ugh, my heart sinks every time I see this thread in the feed..... Wish this POS would die already.

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