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    Quote Originally Posted by garmack View Post
    Agreed yes you have brought forward and you are a icon in this market so is John (marstar) any a few others point being is the up and coming people that will have to support this cause cannot afford it. I regret my post they cannot afford the housing, fuel, food, etc. In the 80`s we had Century Arms, no cross border BS, etc I get your point I just see the prices and I see what we bought 30 years ago
    Yeah and 30 years ago you could buy a coke for a nickel and a persons annual income was a fraction it is now.

    You need to stop posting when your clearly on the sauce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garmack View Post
    Agreed yes you have brought forward and you are a icon in this market so is John (marstar) any a few others point being is the up and coming people that will have to support this cause cannot afford it. I regret my post they cannot afford the housing, fuel, food, etc. In the 80`s we had Century Arms, no cross border BS, etc I get your point I just see the prices and I see what we bought 30 years ago

    I think what you are trying to discribe has a very famous term to it, called Inflation, plus many other contributing factors such as the currently low Canadian dollar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garmack View Post
    Bulk of the people who will support your cause cant afford your over priced sporting arms they aspire to own. Lower the prices let them (your customers) fight for what they can feel, own, use not whats on your website.
    With the exception of our weak dollar and the type 81, Most firearms are very reasonably priced for what you get. For example the Noreen arms .50 cal rifle Wolverine supplies will be selling for 3000 is one of the least expensive .50 callys I've ever seen. They carry a lot of premium brands and those cost more. If you want the cheap stuff go to wholesale sports or cabelas .

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    Gong to sit down tomorrow and bang out a few hand written letters to send to Ottawa.

    I forget the thread, but last crisis someone posted the weight given by government to emailed form letters vs. Original emails vs form letters mailed in vs hand written letters mailed in. If someone has that piece of info please post it.

    This issue deserves hand written. Think of the time you spend cleaning guns, reloading, hunting, shooting, etc. A half hour at a desk won't kill you. You'll wish you had spent that half hour when you've got nothing to clean or reload for.

    Tomorrow is Saturday, just do it and stick the letter in the mail box (no postage req'd)

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    I forget the thread, but last crisis someone posted the weight given by government to emailed form letters vs. Original emails vs form letters mailed in vs hand written letters mailed in. If someone has that piece of info please post it.
    My rules of thumb :

    The first rule is: quantity
    The rule of thumb is that for everyone who holds an opinion, about 1 in 500 to 1000 send a letter.
    About 14,720,580 people voted in the 2011federal election, and 17,559,353 in 2015, so if they get 15,000 letters on a topic in a month, that sets legislation.

    If a political party is 8% behind in the polls, then 1,200 letters could set policy, although not necessarily legislation.

    Emails sometimes get junked by computer -- never having been read by anyone. And even if they aren't, they are frequently ignored. Or replies sent by lowly staff, which is the equivalent to being completely ignored.

    Faxes are better than email.

    Typed Letters are better than faxes. I imagine paperwork being put in a pile on a desk, and the MP walking past that desk every day looking for the biggest pile.

    Handwritten letters (with good penmanship) are better than typed.

    Phone and face conversations trump them all.

    Within letters, cc'ing several ministers means that any reply has to be sent to all the ministers who were cc'ed. It's called a "blizzard of paperwork".



    To say the same thing another way, before email, most offices heard from about 2 percent of their constituents. Now the figure is closer to 4 percent to 5 percent. 2% is 1 in 50. 5% is 1 in 20. But on any given issue or given month, a letter can represent 1 of 1000 voters with the same opinion. Since a given constituency has between 10,000 and 80,000 voters, 80 letters or 500 emails to a single MP represent a decent unanimous poll.
    And 15,000 letters mean that 50% of voters have been representatively sampled.

    Letters without return contact information are ignored.

    Every week the staff in that office add the position on that issue to a tally sheet. Each week the chief of staff for that representative calls a “mail meeting” where senior staff discuss what the MP is hearing from constituents and pass on a summary to the MP.

    Individualized letters, emails, and faxes received a lot of attention. Form letters that look like the individual simply clicked “send” on a pre-written letter receive less attention. As a staffer put it “We hope to spend about as much time answering your communication as you spend sending it to us.”
    Have a specific request, say something about yourself, write in your own voice, and make a local connection.

    Remember to say something about yourself. Several congressional staff with whom FCNL have talked said that adding a few sentences describing where you live, where your children go to school, how long you have lived in your community, or what groups you are a part of can make a difference in how your communication is handled.

    On the issue of hand-written, beautiful penmanship is a way of raising the attention. Another way is having signs that the individual has a strong grounding in the community. Yet another is arranging for personal visits with the MP, possibly as a result of assisting with their EDA (electoral district association).
    Going the other way, writing something that makes you look like a lunatic or idiot, has the opposite effect.

    For me, with ugly handwriting, a typed letter is the way to go. But ensure that your signature is obviously in pen -- don't let it look like a photocopy or mass email.

    Note that snail mail to an MP takes longer than snail mail to your mother in Ottawa, because of security measures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scout_289 View Post
    Press your gun orgs to team up with CMHA and show society that we understand that the root of most violence, gun or no gun, lies in mental health issues. And being responsible citizens we are doing something about it.

    Hard for the antis, politians and the media to attack a group that's working on a problem that everybody is talking about these days but other than organisations like CMHA nobody is doing dick all about it.

    Don't like the CMHA idea, fine. Take the concept and suggest a different group or groups that we can do good things with and quit perpetuating the image of a bunch of rebel, non compliance misfits. That just makes us a jucier target for the "progressives" to show they're doing something.
    I think that is a great idea. A majority of mass shootings in the states on school campuses have been done by those suffering from mental illness.

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    How do I know which senator or mp to contact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk-i View Post
    If this bill passes I'm out of here Quebec and Canada can go Fuddle themselves (:
    This has been discussed with my family, and if this or any other bill passes which impact my love for putting holes in paper, then we are packing up, and relocating to the USA.

    This place is going to pot anyway.

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