Scorpio SKS-15 7.62x39mm Non-Restricted

cgr said:
The engineering, material, machining and assembly cost is certainly worth $650. If you can produce something for less without considerate modification to the base rifle have at it. I think you're missing the target market of this rifle...
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I don't doubt that a lot of money was spent in the development and construction of the SKS-15. And the costs have to be recouped.
I just don't see just how much better this rifle is compared to a SKS-D or a Tapco/ATI stocked version to justify the price.

Anyways, this is NS's forum and me sh!tting on their product is very bad form so I'll bow out. My apologies.
Hope this rifle works and the sales prove me wrong. Having another NR gun just adds options for the Canadian shooter.
 
Mikeschurman said:
I'd like to see a one of these use ak mags too. if there is feeding problems and you can't put in 10 in the xcr mag whats the point for a few extra rounds. You might as well have one that uses an an ak mag. At least they seem to work, my sks d runs just fine
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Just buy the SKS-KD. Essentially the same thing except takes AK mags.
 
An encased SKS requiring tools to disassemble before you can disassemble the actual action and requiring the suggested use of non-corrosive ammo which defeats the purpose of buying an SKS in the first place will get old very quickly.

IMHO, this gun took away the best reasons for owning an SKS in Canada and added $650 to the price tag.
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This is not meant to replace your $200 beater.

Most buyers will still keep their normal SKS rifles. But they will add this to their collection as well.

Non-restricted, optics ready, and takes 10-round pistol mags for $850.

It's closest (only?) competitor would be a Keltec SU-16.
And those are over a grand for the AR-stocked version.
 
dexter morgan said:
this is not meant to replace your $200 beater.

Most buyers will still keep their normal sks rifles. But they will add this to their collection as well.

Non-restricted, optics ready, and takes 10-round pistol mags for $850.

It's closest (only?) competitor would be a keltec su-16.
And those are over a grand for the ar-stocked version.
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^^^^^bingo^^^^
 
Dexter Morgan said:
This is not meant to replace your $200 beater.

Most buyers will still keep their normal SKS rifles. But they will add this to their collection as well.

Non-restricted, optics ready, and takes 10-round pistol mags for $850.

It's closest (only?) competitor would be a Keltec SU-16.
And those are over a grand for the AR-stocked version.
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Stock is also aluminum vs. plastic for the Keltic.
Definitely not targeting the beater gun buyers with this one nor those who shoot corrosive.
 
mebiuspower said:
Notice that other Canadian company who is making a SKS chassis need a gofundme campaign and only got $801 out of the $50k required? Yeah about that.
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Not too surprising. I looked into that, but could not tell (easily) if it would be an investment, or donation. I couldn't see anything like that flying, without some type of return on the funds.

It does bring to mind though, the fact that if the firearms community will not support Canadian entrepreneurship and innovation, we will continue to be at the mercy of other manufacturers outside our borders, with little ability to give input into design. Just hoping for the next shiny thing.

What is needed, other than the so-easy-to-receive bashing, that almost every new idea seems to get, is productive, constructive criticism.

Standard threads have a suggestion offered by someone, usually followed by 3-5 slams on the product.

Just look at this thread, how many DON'T like it. Yet, this is a good leap towards a very good idea. Now if all the naysayers, added some constructive criticism with their bashing comments, the manufacturer could go over those, see which have merit, and if some of those ideas would be worth seeing a V2.0 of this.

LOTS of SKS out there. No reason it can't be given a facelift, as long as it is taken for what it really is. No single solution, will please everyone. But constructive criticisms will help get us things more to the liking of the masses.

So does anyone know, is this Canadian MADE? Or just Canadian FITTED? I've read this thread as it has progressed along, but am not sure that I caught the origin of the manufacture or this chassis/system.

Personally, I want to see some field testing results, but I find this product intriguing. Even moreso if completely Canadian manufactured.
 
Sunchild2071 said:
So does anyone know, is this Canadian MADE? Or just Canadian FITTED? I've read this thread as it has progressed along, but am not sure that I caught the origin of the manufacture or this chassis/system.

Personally, I want to see some field testing results, but I find this product intriguing. Even moreso if completely Canadian manufactured.
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Yes, Canadian made and custom fitted by Kodiak Defense. Agree, testing results are needed.
 
Sunchild2071 said:
Not too surprising. I looked into that, but could not tell (easily) if it would be an investment, or donation. I couldn't see anything like that flying, without some type of return on the funds.

It does bring to mind though, the fact that if the firearms community will not support Canadian entrepreneurship and innovation, we will continue to be at the mercy of other manufacturers outside our borders, with little ability to give input into design. Just hoping for the next shiny thing.

What is needed, other than the so-easy-to-receive bashing, that almost every new idea seems to get, is productive, constructive criticism.

Standard threads have a suggestion offered by someone, usually followed by 3-5 slams on the product.

Just look at this thread, how many DON'T like it. Yet, this is a good leap towards a very good idea. Now if all the naysayers, added some constructive criticism with their bashing comments, the manufacturer could go over those, see which have merit, and if some of those ideas would be worth seeing a V2.0 of this.

LOTS of SKS out there. No reason it can't be given a facelift, as long as it is taken for what it really is. No single solution, will please everyone. But constructive criticisms will help get us things more to the liking of the masses.

So does anyone know, is this Canadian MADE? Or just Canadian FITTED? I've read this thread as it has progressed along, but am not sure that I caught the origin of the manufacture or this chassis/system.

Personally, I want to see some field testing results, but I find this product intriguing. Even moreso if completely Canadian manufactured.
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Well said...
 
Sunchild2071 said:
Not too surprising. I looked into that, but could not tell (easily) if it would be an investment, or donation. I couldn't see anything like that flying, without some type of return on the funds.

It does bring to mind though, the fact that if the firearms community will not support Canadian entrepreneurship and innovation, we will continue to be at the mercy of other manufacturers outside our borders, with little ability to give input into design. Just hoping for the next shiny thing.

What is needed, other than the so-easy-to-receive bashing, that almost every new idea seems to get, is productive, constructive criticism.

Standard threads have a suggestion offered by someone, usually followed by 3-5 slams on the product.

Just look at this thread, how many DON'T like it. Yet, this is a good leap towards a very good idea. Now if all the naysayers, added some constructive criticism with their bashing comments, the manufacturer could go over those, see which have merit, and if some of those ideas would be worth seeing a V2.0 of this.

LOTS of SKS out there. No reason it can't be given a facelift, as long as it is taken for what it really is. No single solution, will please everyone. But constructive criticisms will help get us things more to the liking of the masses.

So does anyone know, is this Canadian MADE? Or just Canadian FITTED? I've read this thread as it has progressed along, but am not sure that I caught the origin of the manufacture or this chassis/system.

Personally, I want to see some field testing results, but I find this product intriguing. Even moreso if completely Canadian manufactured.
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I totally agree with this statement. Just look at the ATRS example.
 
Technical Observations:

Takedown video lists both imperial and metric hex keys. Standardize on one or another.

Possible redesign uses take-down pins instead (in some areas) of hex screws. Might be a combination of the two based on the design requirements to hold chassis onto rifle. Any reduction in the number of screws required to remove rifle for cleaning would be useful. (And reduce objections to all those corrosive ammo users out there).

Possible redesign to use keyed mating surface and pushpin instead of screws for front handguard assembly.

Replace Key-MOD with Mag-LOK might reduce costs by eliminating amount of machining time (minimal).

Possible redesign to allow standard process of removing (unscrewing) mag release from rifle instead of the use of screw. Requires semi-recess feature of left hand ambi magazine release to be removed. Width of stock probably requires lengthened mag release screw and fence on left side of reciever. Alternative is to use oversize left hand side ambi-release for technique below.

Manual of arms requires grabbing spare magazine and actuating left side ambi release with thumb and then inserting new magazine into well. Similar process I use with my CZ-858 B&T magazine conversion.
Not as onerous as it first appears. Fact I only have to renew magazine after 10 rounds instead of 5 rounds mitigates (a little) the somewhat awkward loading procedure.

Interesting design by a Canadian company that has redesigned legacy firearm for the asinine Canadian gun laws.

Kudos for trying. What other 10 round non-restricted semi-auto rifle is available for the Canadian market for under 1K without using a magazine conversion?

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