I got my two yesterday. They are indeed surplus and fairly well worn, lots of handling marks / bumps / scratches. But that is what you expect with a surplus firearm. The barrels on mine look really good, a little bit of Cam pin wear on one of them. No rust at all, under the handguards the barrels look brand new. Handguards are fairly loose, and I one rifle had a replacement handguard, so a bit of a mismatch there. The charging handles are worn but functional. The BCG's are decent. One BCG has definetely seen a fair amount of use compared to the other one and it has a replacement bolt in it and it has a number (serial number??) engraved on the carrier. Overall I'm just happy to have them. Now to turn one of the uppers into a C7