I cant help but think of TrackingPoint when I hear about these long shots now... uhhggg technology
"At the 1899 Hague Conference, the Martens Clause determined that non-uniformed insurgents were unlawful combatants subject to execution on capture. This means that according to Hague, the laws of warfare do not apply to guerrillas, pirates, and terrorists.
The Army has long reserved the right to use hollow points “where it saw a need.” Specified Army commands, Military Police, and Special Mission Units have been issued hollow points in the past."
The last part of that was referring to American units but I'm pretty sure terrorists and non signitory countries are exempt from the rules and may be blasted with v-max
Drop is roughly 200MOA and at that distance it's about 200m of drop....thats a 750 amax at 2850fps for comparison
Maybe they do use expanding bullets; all the special operations guys I know never say anything about that...
But think about this. You are special operations in a hostile country, in what is 'supposed' to be an advisory role, ie, non combatant. Then one of your guys is captured or killed, in combat, with weapons contravening international law. Not the sort of propaganda ammunition you want to give the terrorists, I think. And if I thought of that, Im pretty sure PM selfie and his cohorts have examined the 'optics' of this in much greater detail than I ever will. Thats not to say that I have any knowledge of the ammunition or specific tactics used by the sniper teams of any country, but Im thinking that for this sort of thing they probably have specialized projectiles that arent available at cabelas. I mean, I looked up the ballistics and used an A max as a best proxy, and there is around 230 minutes of drop on a 100yd zero. What optics can even do that? start with a 60 min rail, wind your elevation all the way up, then use your drop reticle? Im thinking that there are some (alot) of specifics that we will never know, because from what I can tell this shot shouldnt have even been possible. An Amax is subsonic about 400m before it arrives at 3500m. Maintaining .5moa accuracy 400m after transonic flight? thats nuts.
Last edited by the_blacksmith; 06-23-2017 at 07:40 PM.
canada uses ammo loaded with amax bullets. they do not expand. also match hollow point bullets do not contravene the geneva convention for the same reason. the jackets are too thick to open up. check hunting regs and i believe they specify no fmj or non expanding bullets and match bullets not allowed.