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Thread: Building the Best Canadian Made Pistol Carbine (Non-Restricted!)

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    If its going to be like JR Carbine but easier to disassemble/Clean and looks more Tacticool...I'll buy it. I have a JR 9mm and its so annoying to properly clean the damn thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ComradeVlad View Post
    Nope, not in the ones ive shot.... now my buddys SUB 2000 on the other hand lol...
    Interesting, thank you! And yes, I would not want to try shooting my S2K left handed.
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    Q1) Is an ambidextrous ejection port important to you when buying a firearm?
    Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways

    Q2) Is an ambidextrous charging handle important?
    Left side or ambi. Right side only is a deal breaker for me.

    Q3) Do you prefer side charging handles or an AR15 style charging handle?
    Option 1: I prefer side charging handles left side


    Q4) Does "Take Down" matter? Do you care if you can separate the rifle easily to make it more compact?
    We plan on developing a 1 second, tool-less twist lock release that separates the Barrel and hand guard together as one piece from the receiver Allowing super compact storage, and easy cleaning
    Option 1: I prefer my firearms to have a "Take Down". This is huge, and if as described, would replace my S2Ks.


    Q5) Does weight matter to you?
    Of course we want to make everything as lightweight as possible, but we want to know how much it matters to you.
    Option 1: Yes, I want everything to be as lightweight as possible


    Q6) Weight Savings - Would you pay slightly more to save more weight?
    Option 1: Pay more for better lighter materials


    Q7) What kind of barrel? We want to build the best rifle package at the most competitive price possible.
    We feel that most companies uses cheap barrels. We want to use the best. If we can include a Carbon Fiber, SS barrel at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you, would you want that? Or prefer just regular steel, or SS?
    Lifetime warranty on the barrel! and our Firearm!
    Option 3: High-end Stainless Steel Carbon Fiber Wrapped - BEST!
    OR Option 2: Slightly more expensive Stainless Steel - No Rust

    Q8) What kind of forend / handguard?
    Top rail and M-LOK so I can add what i need

    Q9) Do you care if firearms are made in Canada?
    Option 1: Yes! I support Canadian Business - If price is fair


    Q10) Price Point - What price do you think would be fair for an incredible Canadian made Non-Restricted firearm like this
    Option 2: 1000-1300
    Last edited by Chargerguy; 07-13-2017 at 05:36 AM.

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    Q1) Is an ambidextrous ejection port important to you when buying a firearm?
    We want to ensure we have the features that most want, while keeping the cost as low as possible
    Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways

    Q2) Is an ambidextrous charging handle important?
    Option 1: I only buy firearms that are capable of ambi charging

    Q3) Do you prefer side charging handles or an AR15 style charging handle?
    Option 1: I prefer side charging handles (Left or Right side of the firearm)

    Q4) Does "Take Down" matter? Do you care if you can separate the rifle easily to make it more compact?
    We plan on developing a 1 second, tool-less twist lock release that separates the Barrel and hand guard together as one piece from the receiver Allowing super compact storage, and easy cleaning
    Option 1: I prefer my firearms to have a "Take Down"

    Q5) Does weight matter to you?
    Of course we want to make everything as lightweight as possible, but we want to know how much it matters to you.
    Option 2: I don't care how heavy it is!

    Q6) Weight Savings - Would you pay slightly more to save more weight?
    Option 2: Heavy and cheap works for me

    Q7) What kind of barrel? We want to build the best rifle package at the most competitive price possible.
    We feel that most companies uses cheap barrels. We want to use the best. If we can include a Carbon Fiber, SS barrel at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you, would you want that? Or prefer just regular steel, or SS?
    Lifetime warranty on the barrel! and our Firearm!
    Option 1: Plain regular steel - Cheapest

    Q8) What kind of forend / handguard?
    Option 3: I prefer a simple round handguard with no rails or very limited

    Q9) Do you care if firearms are made in Canada?
    Option 2: Don't Honestly Care, pricing is most important

    Q10) Price Point - What price do you think would be fair for an incredible Canadian made Non-Restricted firearm like this
    Option 2: 1000-1300

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    IF you can beat the sig mpx 9mm non restricted, in arrival time, and price, your gold!

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    I'm a lefty shooter and have been seriously looking at buying a PCC some time.

    1) Option 2, I don't care about ambi ejection ports. Brass flying in front of my face is fine as long as it doesn't fly into my face.
    2) Depends on question 3. If it's a side charger just keep it to the right, if It's AR15 style charging go ambi.
    3) Don't care, so long as it matches my response to question 2.
    4) Option 1, though not having it wouldn't be a deal breaker.
    5) Option 1, within reason for price and solid construction.
    6) Option 1, again within reason. Not looking for a $2500 fancy skeletonized PCC.
    7) Option 2, unless somehow carbon fiber wrapped barrels wouldn't be a lot more.
    8) Option 3, rails add weight, are less comfortable to grip, and I don't plan on loading on accessories. Maybe just a small section up front for a front sight like this https://www.rainierarms.com/media/pr...eworks-d4c.jpg. MLOK over keymod too, if it came with keymod I'd want to replace it which I would then have to consider the added cost of doing on top of purchase price.
    9) Option 1, but I get the practicality of option 2.
    10) Option 2 preferably, Option 3 if I like it a lot. What I'm willing to spend would be dependent on how it matches up with what I want.

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    1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,1,2.

    " Those who hammer their swords into plowshares, will Plow for those who do not".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony9000 View Post
    IF you can beat the sig mpx 9mm non restricted, in arrival time, and price, your gold!
    It is here already. However..... You could likely buy 2 Lockhart PCC for what I have in my MPX to be non restricted!

    I'm really looking forward to this, guys!
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    Q1) Is an ambidextrous ejection port important to you when buying a firearm?
    We want to ensure we have the features that most want, while keeping the cost as low as possible

    Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways.

    Q2) Is an ambidextrous charging handle important?

    Option 2: No, I would buy it anyways.

    Q3) Do you prefer side charging handles or an AR15 style charging handle?
    Option 1: I prefer side charging handles (Left or Right side of the firearm)


    Q4) Does "Take Down" matter? Do you care if you can separate the rifle easily to make it more compact?
    We plan on developing a 1 second, tool-less twist lock release that separates the Barrel and hand guard together as one piece from the receiver Allowing super compact storage, and easy cleaning

    Option 2: I wouldn't ever, or very rarely use that feature

    Q5) Does weight matter to you?
    Of course we want to make everything as lightweight as possible, but we want to know how much it matters to you.

    Option 2: I don't care how heavy it is! Within reason.

    Q6) Weight Savings - Would you pay slightly more to save more weight?
    Option 1: Pay more for better lighter materials


    Q7) What kind of barrel? We want to build the best rifle package at the most competitive price possible.
    We feel that most companies uses cheap barrels. We want to use the best. If we can include a Carbon Fiber, SS barrel at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you, would you want that? Or prefer just regular steel, or SS?
    Lifetime warranty on the barrel! and our Firearm!

    Option 2: Slightly more expensive Stainless Steel - No Rust


    Q8) What kind of forend / handguard?

    Option 2: I only need a top and bottom rail


    Q9) Do you care if firearms are made in Canada?
    Option 1: Yes! I support Canadian Business - If price is fair But it has to function!!! Accuracy, and reliability!

    Q10) Price Point - What price do you think would be fair for an incredible Canadian made Non-Restricted firearm like this

    Option 2: 1000-1300

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    Q1) 2
    Q2) 2
    Q3) 1
    Q4) 1 Folding/Takedown improve reason to exist
    Q5) 1 = lightweight, but without overreaching pricey tech
    Q6) 1 = lightweight where it is cost effective, so perhaps answer is 1.5
    Q7) good steel, QPQ treatment
    Q8) simple, but AR15 compatible would be ideal
    Q9) 1 if price is fair
    Q10) 1, 2 only if this is something exceptional if versatility/design


    * 7.62x25 vote
    * QPQ treatment
    * easy takedown for cleaning
    * multi-caliber vote
    * AR trigger compatibility
    * curious on magazine solution

    * no to bullpub
    Last edited by mossler; 07-13-2017 at 07:35 PM.

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