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    Q1) Is an ambidextrous ejection port important to you when buying a firearm?
    Option 1: I only buy firearms that are capable of ejection on both sides
    I have a preference for capable of both as this increases your possible sales.

    Q2) Is an ambidextrous charging handle important?
    Option 1: I only buy firearms that are capable of ambi charging
    I have a preference for a forward handle that allows me to keep my trigger hand on the firearm.

    Q3) Do you prefer side charging handles or an AR15 style charging handle?

    Option 1: I prefer side charging handles (Left or Right side of the firearm)
    Side charging is a lot better: i prefer Tavor handle over AR handle.

    Q4) Does "Take Down" matter? Do you care if you can separate the rifle easily to make it more compact?
    We plan on developing a 1 second, tool-less twist lock release that separates the Barrel and hand guard together as one piece from the receiver Allowing super compact storage, and easy cleaning
    Option 2: I wouldn't ever, or very rarely use that feature
    In a handgun caliber it will either be in storage in one piece or in use: take down is useless when it is taken down in your pack and you need it.

    Q5) Does weight matter to you?
    Of course we want to make everything as lightweight as possible, but we want to know how much it matters to you.
    Option 1: Yes, I want everything to be as lightweight as possible
    In a handgun caliber it absolutely must be light: it has no requirement for mass to help with recoil.

    Q6) Weight Savings - Would you pay slightly more to save more weight?
    Option 1: Pay more for better lighter materials
    In a handgun caliber, yes, absolutely.

    Q7) What kind of barrel? We want to build the best rifle package at the most competitive price possible.
    We feel that most companies uses cheap barrels. We want to use the best. If we can include a Carbon Fiber, SS barrel at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you, would you want that? Or prefer just regular steel, or SS?
    Lifetime warranty on the barrel! and our Firearm!
    Option 2: Slightly more expensive Stainless Steel - No Rust
    For a hunting and survival rifle, no glare stainless or coated stainless is best.

    Q8) What kind of forend / handguard?
    Option 2: I only need a top and bottom rail
    I prefer short 3" top and forward bottom rails for sights and bi-pod type accessories, but could have holes to match existing add-on type rails for the sides for those that use them.

    Q9) Do you care if firearms are made in Canada?
    Option 3: Yes! I support Canadian Business - If quality is there.
    Quality out of the gate is what is needed and a fair price for that quality: I don't want to have another Canadian manufacturer have all their Gen 1 units be crap.

    Q10) Price Point - What price do you think would be fair for an incredible Canadian made Non-Restricted firearm like this
    Option 2: 1000-1300
    I figure $1150 would be a good ballpark, then a few changes (extra rails installed, etc.) pushing it to $1250 max.

    My opinion only: forward assist is, regardless of the fan bois, useless. This is not the Sandbox, this is not Vietnam: if you need a forward assist with a civilian rifle you fail. Forward assist was invented for when the buffer failed to slam the bolt home on a crappy military round, not for domestic civilian Federal/Remington/Winchester/commercial goodness. Please don't add crap that isn't needed. I have lost count of the cases of rounds through a Tavor and never once had a wish for a forward assist. I have never used a forward assist on an AR... well, other than one of the other Canadian Manufacturers (their name is anathema) and that was because it was an extremely low number Gen 1 piece of crap...
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    Don't care about the ambi stuff. If it cost nothing or very little I would like it but it's not that important to me. I want an affordable, lightweight, accurate and durable platform!
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    We're not going to come out and say this is the barrel we're going to use on our non-restricted pistol caliber carbines
    Raven9 (9mm)
    Raven10 (10mm)
    Raven40 (.40)
    and Raven45 (.45)



    ...But these are the barrels we're going to be using.
    With an MSRP of around $650 CDN per barrel, we'll be buying massive amounts of them to drive our cost per unit down.


    ...Allowing us to offer these USA MADE Stainless Steel barrels built with the most highly advanced carbon fiber technology, creating a lightweight barrel weighing around 1lb!
    Did we mention lifetime warranty on our barrels? If you ever out-shoot them, we'll replace them.


    Colors we will bring to market:
    Black
    Black / Red
    Flat Dark Earth (FDE)


    Our target price point for our pistol caliber carbine is under $1400 CDN.
    Target weight for the entire carbine is 5.5lbs


    Key features we plan on implementing:
    1) Ambi charging handle solution (Choose side charging or AR15 style)
    2) Ambi ejection
    3) Last round open bolt hold
    4) Bolt release
    5) Tool-less single pin receiver take down for easy cleaning
    6) Tool-less 1 second (handguard + barrel) take down quick release for compact storing and cleaning
    7) High end USA MADE carbon fiber / Stainless Steel barrel Included at no additional cost
    8) Lifetime warranty on barrel
    9) Lifetime warranty on firearm
    10) Entire firearm as lightweight as possible (target 5.5lb)
    11) Will accept Glock Mags, Smith / Wesson M&P Mags and others high in demand
    12) Made in Canada!
    Once on the market, we will be selling these worldwide through distribution.



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    Are you curious what other people said in our POLL?
    Check it out here! https://contest.fbapp.io/results/raven9



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    Quote Originally Posted by lockharttactical View Post
    We're not going to come out and say this is the barrel we're going to use on our non-restricted pistol caliber carbines
    Raven9 (9mm)
    Raven10 (10mm)
    Raven40 (.40)
    and Raven45 (.45)



    ...But these are the barrels we're going to be using.
    With an MSRP of around $650 CDN per barrel, we'll be buying massive amounts of them to drive our cost per unit down.


    ...Allowing us to offer these USA MADE Stainless Steel barrels built with the most highly advanced carbon fiber technology, creating a lightweight barrel weighing around 1lb!
    Did we mention lifetime warranty on our barrels? If you ever out-shoot them, we'll replace them.


    Colors we will bring to market:
    Black
    Black / Red
    Flat Dark Earth (FDE)


    Our target price point for our pistol caliber carbine is under $1400 CDN.
    Target weight for the entire carbine is 5.5lbs


    Key features we plan on implementing:
    1) Ambi charging handle solution (Choose side charging or AR15 style)
    2) Ambi ejection
    3) Last round open bolt hold
    4) Bolt release
    5) Tool-less single pin receiver take down for easy cleaning
    6) Tool-less 1 second (handguard + barrel) take down quick release for compact storing and cleaning
    7) High end USA MADE carbon fiber / Stainless Steel barrel Included at no additional cost
    8) Lifetime warranty on barrel
    9) Lifetime warranty on firearm
    10) Entire firearm as lightweight as possible (target 5.5lb)
    11) Will accept Glock Mags, Smith / Wesson M&P Mags and others high in demand
    12) Made in Canada!
    Once on the market, we will be selling these worldwide through distribution.



    Share this with your fellow firearm owners!



    Are you curious what other people said in our POLL?
    Check it out here! https://contest.fbapp.io/results/raven9



    ****Have you subscribed to our website to get updates on the Ravens release? Just scroll down to the bottom of the page to join! https://www.lockharttactical.com/clearance ***






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    When do you expect to be selling?

    Sounds great. How about 9mm CZ magazine compatible?

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    Definitely interested. Love to know more are they become available

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    I can't wait to see these materialize.
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    Any chance of offering these in 7.62x25?

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    Tears of joy. 10mm is what im in for have money waiting just say the word. Sorry if this has deen answered already but will any of the parts be made here in canada uppers,lowers,pins ect or just assembled here.

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