I currently have 2 DA Grizzly, a 12.5 tube and a 24" mag fed slug special, and have had 5 870's, 3 wing and 2 express. While the wings have had good to great finish, the Griz are more than = to the express. The mag gun is long overdue, but that "bolt on" type of mag set up is rather goofy. My Griz looks much better and works like a charm. My 2c worth.