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    Informal IIIA Stab Test

    Since we are in Canada, the chances of getting shot (unless you live in Toronto) are pretty slim, depending on vocation.

    From a security professionals perspective, getting stabbed is a much higher likelihood.

    We take our IIIA rated anti-stab soft armour and simulate a stabbing strike with a tomahawk.

    Why to 'hawk? It can generate way more striking force than a knife, so we decided it would be a better test.



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    How would these hold up to an ice pick? Always afraid I'll get stabbed out of the blue by one and the assailant will say "ice to see you."

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    Quote Originally Posted by neoconfection View Post
    How would these hold up to an ice pick? Always afraid I'll get stabbed out of the blue by one and the assailant will say "ice to see you."
    That all depends on the person using it, kevlar does not do well with a pick or needle, the PE does.
    dedicated anti stab products have a metal mesh liner which makes the ballistic material not very flexible.
    most knife"proof" armor today it thin and hard.
    the hybrid armor give good protection from both bullets and sharp objects while still staying somewhat flexible

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    A tomahawk is NOT a good test because the cutting edge is 3-4 inches whereas a knife is concentrated on less that 1/8".

    The wider blade will not part the weave whereas the knife works by parting the weave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RePete View Post
    A tomahawk is NOT a good test because the cutting edge is 3-4 inches whereas a knife is concentrated on less that 1/8".

    The wider blade will not part the weave whereas the knife works by parting the weave.
    We take our IIIA rated anti-stab soft armour and simulate a stabbing
    strike with a tomahawk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RePete View Post
    A tomahawk is NOT a good test because the cutting edge is 3-4 inches whereas a knife is concentrated on less that 1/8".

    The wider blade will not part the weave whereas the knife works by parting the weave.
    ^ 100% agreed! The Tomahawk test doesn't reflect what a common carried knife will do. Looks more like Blunt force with that thing. The little knife you used to separate the layers or a similar few inch long blade, pocket knife would be more viable/realistic. Or even a {sharpened} screwdriver! Something small that an assalient could conceal easier than a Tomahawk!

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    Poor marketing. To use a tragic events to sell your Armour.
    April 8th, remember 22 Bravo. Take a min to remember the Fallen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badboybeeson View Post
    We take our IIIA rated anti-stab soft armour and simulate a stabbing
    strike with a tomahawk.
    Do the test with a knife and an icepick and post that video, then that would have validity, whereas a tomahawk has little to none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RePete View Post
    Do the test with a knife and an icepick and post that video, then that would have validity, whereas a tomahawk has little to none.
    Pete we are planing on it, for sure.
    we are just waiting on a bunch more being made

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    Quote Originally Posted by OkayShooter View Post
    Poor marketing. To use a tragic events to sell your Armour.
    I,m quite offended by that this.
    We have been making and also selling armor for 7yrs now.
    are you going to make the same statement when we push our medical products??

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