Most likely you have now heard of the new IWI TS-12 bullpup shotgun.
(The black gun. Tan one is new Tavor 7 in .308 Win)
What is interesting is that it is not the only 12 gauge bullpup to be displayed at SHOT this year.
In 2016, I covered a early prototype of the Sko-Bull from Standard Manufacturing Co.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...-semi-12-gauge
I saw it on display, but didnt get a chance to ask how it has progressed. I'll try again tomorrow.
I do recall from last year that it was going to very expensive, over $2000 in the USA
In this close-up, you can see the layers of 3D printing.
From Turkey, I saw two different booths, each with their own style of 12 ga 'pup.
At the Derya booth, they had two somewhat different versions of gun, the Derya N-100 and N-200
The N-100 has a molded plastic/polymer lower, while the N-200 has an aluminum lower.
I didnt get a chance to take it apart, so I may be a bit off when I refer to "the lower"
The two versions look a fair bit different from each other, but I was told that the internals are the same.
O'Dell Engineering is hoping to bring these to Canada. They have very recently submitted samples to the RCMP. Now we wait...
A few aisles over, I came across the Adler BP-12, also from Turkey.
It also is being handled by O'Dell, and again, we wait for FRT classification...
Groovy gold and silver colours!
As far as observations, here are a few random thoughts:
--The IWI TS-12 is a big goofy looking pig of a thing. I enjoyed the chance to be among the very first to fire it, but I had some issues with it. There is a release catch that has to be pressed to rotate the triple tube mag (3 tubes, 5 shells each). It is located at the front of the trigger guard, like the safety on a Garand/M-14/Mini-14. You need to push this with the very end of your trigger finger to rotate the mags around. Not a natural operation...
More importantly, the mag tube serve as a foregrip for your off hand. I found I would fire two shots, then I would begin to rotate the mags a bit and the gun would stop! (Bolt in rearward position) I would then rotate it back to correct position, and the bolt would come forward and be ready to fire again. That didnt inspire confidence...
--Also with the TS-12, I found it bounced around a bit more than expected. Perhaps there is a lot of reciprocating mass slamming back and forth.
--I did not fire either Turkish gun, as they were not at Range day. No chance to fire anything inside the Sands Expo hall. However, I did pick them up handle them. The two from Derya seem VERY rear heavy. Holding it one-handed, by the pistol grip only, was really difficult. I own a LA K-12 Puma and it balances a lot better. And keep in mind that these guns are positively NOT loaded in the Expo hall.
--The Adler gun was not nearly as ass-heavy, but still somewhat rear heavy. I could and control it with one had on the pistol grip.
--As the IWI gun will probably be deemed to have one 15 round mag, rather than three 5 rounders, we likely wont get it in Canada.
--Unless the Sko-Bull can cut the cost by a lot, I dont see it selling well here or in the USA
--I really do hope the two Turkish guns are approved Non-R. More choice is always good. Having said that, I feel the Puma is a better design.