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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderhog View Post
    Very well said!.....
    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomAR View Post
    The stupidest thing is that... of all knives, the kershaw skyline?! LIKE REALLY???? there are sooooo many more folders that deploy wayyyyy faster including all the spring assisted ones that are legal here ..

    and if you flicked any folder hard enough it would "open by gravity/centrifugal force"
    and that right there is why we need to fight this legal fight. by this ridiculous interpretation pretty much any folding knife designed to be opened with one hand can be considered to be "prohibited".

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    My favourite excerpt is the part about having no plans to change the law to "allow folding knives"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by krausb View Post
    Even sadder, aside from the actual dollars, is that in those 12 months only 242 people have stepped up to contribute and fight for their rights by putting their money where their mouths (or keyboards) are...

    Like you say, every dollar helps and it would be nice to see more than just a couple hundred people involved in this fight.
    Just found it today! donated today!

    as a knife nut before a gun nut, if the bright sparks on the left can take away any rights or choices we have, the closer they are to taking the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEN403 View Post
    Just found it today! donated today!

    as a knife nut before a gun nut, if the bright sparks on the left can take away any rights or choices we have, the closer they are to taking the rest.
    I donated also, but we need to spread the link. Come on people!! even $1 goes a long way if everyone does it.

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    So if a knife is to easy to open I might wanna commit a crime? Liberal logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanstallsOnline View Post
    To those of you not in the know. The CBSA has decided to interpret the knife laws in Canada to suite their own agenda and have been seizing perfectly legal knives from both consumers and retailers at the border under their own internal misguided interpretation of the law. This is a complete abuse of power on the CBSA’s behalf and it is time for Canadians to stand up! This could be the beginning of a slippery slope.

    Please take 30 seconds and sign the petition below and fight for your rights!

    https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Sign/e-1552

    Link to article outlining what’s going on

    http://knifenews.com/attorney-asks-k...e-legislation/

    Go fund me link:

    https://www.gofundme.com/canadian-knife-rights-law-suit
    Not sure if this has been corrected but this was NOT CBSA's decision. This ruling was made by the Canadian International Trade Tribunal. CBSA actually appealed this decision and asked for clarification, but were denied.
    They have no choice but to enforce the ruling.
    This Notice is to advise interested parties that the Canadian International Trade Tribunal (CITT) has rendered a decision in #Appeal No. AP-2017-012, T. LaPlante v. President of the Canada Border Services Agency regarding knives which open automatically by centrifugal force (centrifugal knives).
    2. In accordance with subsection 84(1) of the Criminal Code and the CITT's recent decision in T. LaPlante, the CBSA resolves that centrifugal knives will be classified as prohibited weapons if the following conditions are met:
    a knife has a blade that opens by centrifugal force, when the blade is released from the handle into the fully ejected and locked position with a simple and brisk outwardly flick of the wrist; and
    it includes knives that require some preliminary or simultaneous minimal manipulation of either a flipper or other non-edged parts of the blade.
    3. Please be advised that the CBSA will immediately prohibit the importation of all knives by an individual that open as per the CITT's decision. Importation by a business is permitted if a Firearms Business Licence has been presented with import – prohibited weapon, listed as a business activity on the licence. For more detailed information concerning the decision, please consult the decision posted on the Tribunal's website at: CITT Appeal No. AP-2017-012.
    4. The CBSA’s policy on the importation of prohibited weapons is available in Memorandum D19-13-2, Importing and Exporting Firearms, Weapons and Devices. The Memoranda D19-13-2 will be revised to reflect the CITT decision on centrifugal opening knives.

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    Thanks very much for posting on this topic but none of this is new information. There is nothing to correct; other than it was not the CBSA that appealed any decisions (now to be fair, I have not seen any evidence of this - if you have any documentation that shows otherwise, I think we'd all be very eager to see it). This situation is fairly well documented. A particular CBSA officer ruled that a knife (a Kershaw Skyline assisted opening pocket knife) to be prohibited, the Individual who's knife was seized appealed this decision and that appeal went to the CITT, which is how these things are handled.

    The CITT subsequently supported the CBSA's position that these types of knives are "prohibited weapons" and here we are.

    but to be certain, this all started with the CBSA deciding that a style of knife, that police forces and courts across this country have all said is not prohibited, was a "prohibited weapon". so it is very much a problem that originated with the CBSA.

    Please donate to the pending court challenge and help fight the good fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by krausb View Post
    Thanks very much for posting on this topic but none of this is new information. There is nothing to correct; other than it was not the CBSA that appealed any decisions (now to be fair, I have not seen any evidence of this - if you have any documentation that shows otherwise, I think we'd all be very eager to see it). This situation is fairly well documented. A particular CBSA officer ruled that a knife (a Kershaw Skyline assisted opening pocket knife) to be prohibited, the Individual who's knife was seized appealed this decision and that appeal went to the CITT, which is how these things are handled.

    The CITT subsequently supported the CBSA's position that these types of knives are "prohibited weapons" and here we are.

    but to be certain, this all started with the CBSA deciding that a style of knife, that police forces and courts across this country have all said is not prohibited, was a "prohibited weapon". so it is very much a problem that originated with the CBSA.

    Please donate to the pending court challenge and help fight the good fight!
    "To those of you not in the know. The CBSA has decided to interpret the knife laws in Canada to suite their own agenda and have been seizing perfectly legal knives from both consumers and retailers at the border under their own internal misguided interpretation of the law. This is a complete abuse of power on the CBSA’s behalf and it is time for Canadians to stand up! This could be the beginning of a slippery slope.

    Please take 30 seconds and sign the petition below and fight for your rights!

    https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Sign/e-1552

    Link to article outlining what’s going on

    http://knifenews.com/attorney-asks-k...e-legislation/

    Go fund me link:

    https://www.gofundme.com/canadian-knife-rights-law-suit"

    To quote the above...
    Incorrect. That is what was meant by "ndrw21" and his post. Don't twist this around to be a conspiracy, its not. An Officer thought he was acting in good faith and it spiraled out of control with the CITT Nobody likes it, but that is the nature of it....
    Last edited by North of 7; 03-20-2019 at 05:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North of 7 View Post
    "To those of you not in the know. The CBSA has decided to interpret the knife laws in Canada to suite their own agenda and have been seizing perfectly legal knives from both consumers and retailers at the border under their own internal misguided interpretation of the law. This is a complete abuse of power on the CBSA’s behalf and it is time for Canadians to stand up! This could be the beginning of a slippery slope.

    Please take 30 seconds and sign the petition below and fight for your rights!

    https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Sign/e-1552
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Link is dead.
    Not my link... was a quote from another poster above...

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