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    Magazine restrictions....Clarification seems to be needed...

    As most of you are aware, IRUNGUNS maintains facilities in both the US and Canada. IRUNGUNS offers the Canadian consumer the ability to purchase all magazines from its US store. We maintain a Magazine Compliance Dept. in the US which offers the customer the ability to purchase high capacity magazines and have them restricted to comply with Canadian Legislation, free of charge . IRUNGUNS follows the laws and regulations set forth by all governing agencies that regulate the Import/Export of defense products. We take Export Compliance very seriously, that being said, we feel that this needs to be addressed.

    We did not make these rules and regulations but we will follow them without hesitation. We will not name any companies or individuals, but numerous phone calls and multiple emails sent to us will not change how many rounds your magazine will hold. Being that as it may, to have certain individuals who are also in the industry, tell us on the phone that they also have received a copy of the same bulletin, (see Attached), and then begin to argue as to why we will not break the law is absurd. Please accept this as a public answer to those individual's queries on magazine restrictions.


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    For MGI Marck15 rifles chambered in .458Socom (FRT# 128962)

    - this is a "RESTRICTED FIREARM" as per: CC 84(1) "restricted firearm" para. (b) "restricted firearm" means (b) a firearm that (i) is not a prohibited firearm, (ii) has a barrel less than 470 mm in length, and (iii) is capable of discharging centre-fire ammunition in a semi-automatic manner, or RFR, Part 2, para. 2 2. The firearm of the design commonly known as the M-16 rifle, and any variant or modified version of it. - The Regulations Prescribing Certain Firearms and Other Weapons, Components and Parts of Weapons, Accessories, Cartridge Magazines, Ammunition and Projectiles as Prohibited, Restricted or Non-Restricted, Part 4, Paragraphs 3(1)(a)(ii) and 3(1)(a)(iii) states: 3. (1) Any cartridge magazine (a) that is capable of containing more than five cartridges of the type for which the magazine was originally designed and that is designed or manufactured for use in (ii) a semi-automatic firearm other than a semi-automatic handgun, (iii) an automatic firearm whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger,

    Therefore, any AR platform magazine for the original 5.56x45 mm NATO (223 Remington) cartridge is prohibited at any capacity exceeding five shots. - in the case of AR platform firearms chambered for 50 Beowulf calibre, the magazine is adapted from the original 5.56x45 NATO version of the magazine but the ability of the magazine to perform as originally designed has not been compromised by the adaptation. As a result, such magazines are prohibited if they contain more than five 5.56x45 mm NATO cartridges.

    The magazines are in effect dual calibre magazines and are prohibited if they exceed five shots capacity of either calibre. An AR platform magazine limited to no more than five 5.56x45 mm NATO (223 Remington) cartridges, will hold no more than two 50 Beowulf cartridges. - the 458 SOCOM cartridge was designed to be used in standard M16 rifle and M4 carbine magazines. In the case of AR platform firearms chambered for 458 SOCOM calibre, conventional M16, M4 and AR-15 magazines can be used provided they contain no more than five 5.56x45 mm NATO cartridges. An AR platform magazine limited to no more than five 5.56x45 mm NATO (223 Remington) cartridges, will typically hold no more than two 458 SOCOM cartridges.


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    Brutal.
    Wonder if pistol mags are next
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    So according to this, STANAG pistol mags on the market for 223/556, and alt cals are prohib?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xdmer View Post
    So according to this, STANAG pistol mags on the market for 223/556 are prohib?
    No, because some magazines were originally manufactured for the AR 223/556 pistol.
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    I bet the next thing to be axed is the 10 round pistol mags that can be used in rifles. That’s one loophole that will be clarified with some wording as easy as “all pistol magazines must be pinned to 5 rounds”

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    What about the Socom mag that has a follower that will keep the rounds in the center of the mag?
    Same thing? Only limited to 2?

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    I'm guessing this applies to mags in 6.8 spc / 7.62x39 that have a stanag style mag body? even though the 6.8 follower won't feed the 5.56/.223 after the first 2-3 rounds...

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    Ok well he can unpin it and pin it to what ever he wants. We have been looking for someone to get charged so we can fight this in court maybe he is volunteering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt_Data View Post
    I'm guessing this applies to mags in 6.8 spc / 7.62x39 that have a stanag style mag body? even though the 6.8 follower won't feed the 5.56/.223 after the first 2-3 rounds...
    It's not the follower that's the issue it is the mag body that is being regulated. This bulletin was released on November 18, 2015, that is over 2 years ago, the other exert is right from the FRT.


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