Gauging Interest: ZVS P21 Pistols

ZVS Holding A.S., headquartered in the Slovakian town of Dubnica nad Váhom, has been in the ammunition manufacturing and firearms development business since it was first established, in the 1920s. Ever since, it has been developing and mastering technologies and techniques to offer high-technology, highly modern products: so to speak, the Scorpion EVO-3 A1 9x19mm sub-machinegun, manufactured by CZ in Czech Republic, was originally born as an original ZVS Holding project. ZVS has been working to establish and launch a series of self-manufactured firearms for some years now, and is starting with a pistol design that takes upon modernity without forgetting classic, tried-and-true solutions and features.

The P21 is based on a CZ-modified Browning-type locking principle (they're thus more akin to a CZ pistol than to anything else), and yet, it features a fibreglass-reinforced polymer frame with ambidextrous slide stop and manual safety, and reversible magazine catch. The P21 is an external hammer-fired, SA/DA pistol featuring a 121mm barrel on an overall length of 210mm, and comes equipped with high-visibility sights.

Versatility is, however, the key feature of the P21 pistol. It may be converted from 9mm to .40, and vice-versa, simply by swapping slide, barrel and magazine − the frame having been designed to be compatible with the different sizes of the components. Would be priced at $749.

A package deal with both uppers might be cool.

Looks interesting but at that price point it's up against some pretty stiff competition including CZ themselves. So I guess the question is how does it stack up against the competition?

I would have to say pass at that price point. I like that the slide catch is out of the way and I wouldn't be riding the stupid thing. Negative thing that turn me off...

It looks like the grip would be way too slick and would need grip tape or modifying. Trigger looks cheap in terms of finish, looks like there is a ridge down the center of the trigger. Also the finish on top of the slide, looks like theres a ridge or line there. At a lower price point sure but not near the $800 mark.

Not a fan I have zero interest in dealing between 9 and. 40 if I was 9 and .22 then maybe. However for everything else is echo Mr.rabbit above ^^^^^

I'd be G17 G5 for that price.

And ... price and availability of additional mags?

Would pass if that price. Would rather get a Glock, Walther, SFP9, etc.
If it were like $550, then I might consider it even though I prefer striker fired.
Also, I don't know how much I'd like the safety being so close to the slide stop.

Tough crowd at that price point with many other better supported options available. Pass.

Wouldn't be interested at that price bracket

That gun can't compete at 750$. No reason to buy a plastic CZ if you can get the real one for only a couple dollars more. I'll echo the others, it's a 550$ gun. 600$ top, but sales would be sluggish at that price point.

$700 plastic market is pretty saturated. HK VP9, PPQ, Glocks M&P

There is nothing special about this wonder and it would struggle.

maybe in the 500$ range it would be better but like the others says, 700+ would be a no from me.

They are too late to the game. For that price I can get HK with 4 mags + with HK I have a chance to find mags and parts.

Had a good laugh at this point: "It may be converted from 9mm to .40, and vice-versa, simply by swapping slide, barrel and magazine"... TT33 needs less for going from 7.62 to 9mm.

guess_kto said:

They are too late to the game. For that price I can get HK with 4 mags + with HK I have a chance to find mags and parts.

Had a good laugh at this point: "It may be converted from 9mm to .40, and vice-versa, simply by swapping slide, barrel and magazine"... TT33 needs less for going from 7.62 to 9mm.

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They also claim they have an "extraordinary magazine capacity" at 16 rounds. HAH! That's standard for a poly 9mm double stack. Most have at least 15, like the 92, VP9, CZ P-07. Glock 17 offered 17 rounds almost 40 freaking years ago, Springfield XDM has 19 round mags. I mean, not that it matters to us Canucks, but I just hate that kind of marketing bull####, especially when they're trying to put sugar on ####. Also couldn't help but snort at the conversion "feature".

$499 with 3-4 mags and I'm on it. Or $700, two slide units and 3 mags per calibre. The East Bloc is getting uppety.

Like the look. Is that a casting seam in the third pic of the first post where it shows a line down the length of the top of the slide?!

I agree with most commenters here. As a newcomer to the market segment they should be pricing much lower (dare I say even close to break even) to get some ppl buying who will ultimately vouch for the product. At $749 I have access to most Glocks / various other polymer from pistols who have a proven track record... just my $.02

JW Knives said:

I agree with most commenters here. As a newcomer to the market segment they should be pricing much lower (dare I say even close to break even) to get some ppl buying who will ultimately vouch for the product.

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5 years ago the US market was saying these would be coming in around $800USD(6-700euros)

Seems sketchy, did they ever make it to the US? Maybe there's a reason.