I didn't pre order thru PR but I did thru another vendor. They sent an Email out last week saying THEY didn't expect to see the majority of their rifles in until the new year or early spring. I've asked for a refund and I'm going to pick up a new shotty to shoot away my disappointment. Now This doesn't say Prophet River won't get theirs sooner. In fact I'm hoping to still pick one up when the numbers pick up. Just thought I'd share my info.