Canada's shortest NR firearm: Keltec KSG Tactical - 13.7" Barrel, 21.4" OAL.

This requirement says that the firearm is restricted if becoming less than 660mm by folding, telescoping, or other means.
So does not apply when fixed OAL is shorter straight out of the manufacturer.

Youza.

So would this not apply to putting a pistol grip on a short shotgun bringing it under 660mm?
 
First off . some real info.
1 why would remington canada aka gravel agancy import a keltec?
2 the US DOJ are not allowing any shotguns or shot gun bbls below 18inch exported out of the US for Civie sale
3 if a firearms is 26.6 inch total lenght as its smallest and it comes with a "factory" bbl that less then 18 inch it is legal.
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Good catch Simon. I meant Vault, and for somereason typed Gravel.

IRG can export Serbu super shorties, so I doubt these are off limits.
 
First off . some real info.
1 why would remington canada aka gravel agancy import a keltec?
2 the US DOJ are not allowing any shotguns or shot gun bbls below 18inch exported out of the US for Civie sale
3 if a firearms is 26.6 inch total lenght as its smallest and it comes with a "factory" bbl that less then 18 inch it is legal.
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So we will probably never see the Tac-14 / Shockwave:(
 
Think your SOL on the tactical model 26"/ 660mm is the shortest OAL allowed. The Tactical would be a prohib at 21.4 the 26 is pretty short and holds more anyway.

I don't know if you can get a restricted SG below that measurement or not. I thought prohib. My buddy took his regular KSG to the range and they made him put it back in the trunk.Said it was to short
 
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Think your SOL on the tactical model 26"/ 660mm is the shortest OAL allowed. The Tactical would be a prohib at 21.4 the 26 is pretty short and holds more anyway.

Only if it telescopes, folds, or by other means becomes shorter then 660mm. If it’s factory and doesn’t adjust is can be shorter then 26”.
 
"Restricted firearms include: handguns that are not prohibited; semi-automatic, centre-fire rifles and shotguns with a barrel shorter than 470 mm; rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm"

KSG is not or does none of those things. Therefore not a prohibited or restricted firearm. Same as the ranch hand that are 24" and NR.

As already mentioned in my OP, these already have a NR FRT!
 
So - by this logic, you could put a pistol grip with no stock on an 8" Dominion Arms Grizzly? Because it doesn't fold or telescope, it would be NR?

Dlask had the 8.5 pistol gripped shotgun classified as NR back in the day but then a tonne of people probably asked the lab. IS THIS FOR REAL?????
Then the RCMP went and said... "IT MAYBE A HANDGUN" and therefore a restricted firearm because it can be "operated with one hand" So.... again... do you want to be the first test case? and risk POUND YOU IN THE ASS PRISON for getting caught with one in the woods? You'll never get a straight answer, so err on the side of caution.


“handgun” means a firearm that is designed, altered or intended to be aimed and fired by the action of one hand, whether or not it has been redesigned or subsequently altered to be aimed and fired by the action of both hands; S84 of the criminal code.....
 
Updated the OP to limit the mindless comments by those who do not know the laws.

So instead of going on about what expert you are and how mindless everyone else is. Order the dam thing. Your the one who created a post instead of sending a PM to IRG
 
So - by this logic, you could put a pistol grip with no stock on an 8" Dominion Arms Grizzly? Because it doesn't fold or telescope, it would be NR?

No. You could not put one on after the case, as that would be "modified" via "other means" to shorten the OAL.

Restricted firearms include: handguns that are not prohibited; semi-automatic, centre-fire rifles and shotguns with a barrel shorter than 470 mm; rifles and shotguns that can be fired when their overall length has been reduced by folding, telescoping or other means to less than 660 mm

However, in theory a pistol griped SBS from factory could be NR except that the RCMP call them handguns which is false. Only reason the KSG is getting special treatment is because its damn hard to call a fixed stock bullpup design a handgun.
 
So instead of going on about what expert you are and how mindless everyone else is. Order the dam thing. Your the one who created a post instead of sending a PM to IRG

Im just frustrated that when I clearly laid out why it was NR and that it allready has a NR FRT that over half the chatter is saying I am wrong.

And you cant just order one, a batch would need to be ordered and IRG would have to confirm they are able to export them. I made a thread as I knew this is something that will be of significant interest and wanted IRG to see that for motivation.

If you dont like getting called out for making a comment on something you are unknowledgable about, the internet is a poor place to make assumptions.
 
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