ATRS Modern Sporter - Nov 30th : New video, Post 482

RAConnol said:
Fair enough, however as the entire upper and lower receivers are Proprietary, which gives us the NR status, I am assuming we are past that issue.
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Not sure what issue we are now past but as soon as we start to add proprietary parts such as ambi this or that the price goes up exponentially and the chance of our insurance company again demanding that only completed rifles are provided also due to potential liability concerns then becomes a potential issue, again. This then rather defeats the whole purpose of the Modern Sporter which we created due to demand from the public to create a DIY receiver set that accepts as many standard AR15 parts and is as cheap as possible.
 
So , I just checked through some small parts I have and there’s no front takedown pin.

ATRS, can you provide this pin? If not, no worries, I’ll just hit Brownells up.

Thanks

I think I have the rest of the required parts.:)
 
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People are never happy.
 
ATRS Shaun said:
One big word with EVERY ambi bolt release system: Proprietary Parts.

The entire point of these receiver sets was so that people wouldn't be pigeonholed into using ONLY this piece, or ONLY that piece.
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Thats Fair but you guys took it too far if that is the reason for excluding the ambi bolt release imo.

Including an ambi bolt release would not force the user to use it, and there is no alternative that you would be veto'ing the use of... hence no reason for it to not be proprietary.

Its not that we dont like your folks ideas and improvements, its just that we would rather freedom of choice where it applies.
 
Next run can you make it with a front and rear takedown pin . And also I’d like to be able to attach any upper i already have in my collection . Ooh and a suppressor include one of those too
 
onetwentyish said:
Thats Fair but you guys took it too far if that is the reason for excluding the ambi bolt release imo.

Including an ambi bolt release would not force the user to use it, and there is no alternative that you would be veto'ing the use of... hence no reason for it to not be proprietary.

Its not that we dont like your folks ideas and improvements, its just that we would rather freedom of choice where it applies.
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By including our ambi bolt release we would have had to increase the cost by $200.00, so do we appease the masses or shoot ourselves in the for again by including upgrades that so many did not want to pay for? MOST ARs do not come with the features our other semi autos do, but they are also cheaper. You can't have both.
Look at it on the bright side you can choose any popular trigger you want this time.
 
I'm happy you guys didn't include it. Prioritizing cost to market over feautures not everyone favors was the right move especially considering there are other options to achieve the same function.
 
alberta tactical rifle said:
By including our ambi bolt release we would have had to increase the cost by $200.00, so do we appease the masses or shoot ourselves in the for again by including upgrades that so many did not want to pay for? MOST ARs do not come with the features our other semi autos do, but they are also cheaper. You can't have both.
Look at it on the bright side you can choose any popular trigger you want this time.
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Fair enough! I would like it on about half of my MS lowers, the ones not for clone purposes. I would have paid up but its fair that others might not see the need or have the desire. I am just glad there is a enough material still there to make it happen. Might have to buy a few spare mechanisms from the MV to make it work!
 
Maybe later on they can add certain features if there’s enough deposits to make a run worth it? The retained safety detent/spring and solid rear takedown bar are improvements I like, no losing springs or detents when I change my mind on parts for the 100th time lol.

I’m happy with what I’m getting, NR AR was the dream when I realized they were restricted. This is as close as it gets!
 
jiffx2781 said:
Am I the only one who finds it amusing how the majority of people wanted cheap and featureless BUT now that we've got what was wanted everyone's trying to figure out how to add the features that nobody wanted to pay for.

Back to beating the same dead horse we go d:h:
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Glad I was never in that group. I have always wanted to pursue building the best platform possible, and I do this with every rifle and shot gun, so AR/MS is no different in that respect. Cost isn't irrelevant, its just less of an issue to me. I am more concerned with the final product.

Djb1 said:
I'm happy you guys didn't include it. Prioritizing cost to market over feautures not everyone favors was the right move especially considering there are other options to achieve the same function.
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Im not per say happy that it was excluded, but I do agree that in the time and cost restraints ATRS was facing and that they had to pick one or the other, going with out is probably better. That said, it would be a neat option just like FA uppers for future consideration.
 
Kratos said:
Maybe later on they can add certain features if there’s enough deposits to make a run worth it? The retained safety detent/spring and solid rear takedown bar are improvements I like, no losing springs or detents when I change my mind on parts for the 100th time lol.

I’m happy with what I’m getting, NR AR was the dream when I realized they were restricted. This is as close as it gets!
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Exactly!
 
onetwentyish said:
Im not per say happy that it was excluded, but I do agree that in the time and cost restraints ATRS was facing and that they had to pick one or the other, going with out is probably better. That said, it would be a neat option just like FA uppers for future consideration.
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For future consideration is perfectly reasonable. Seeing as this is the beginning of something great. I am rejoiced to find they included FA uppers which was a point of contention with votes equal on both sides. Likewise, it added cost that some were willing to pay. So in the future perhaps an extra cut and a couple extra parts is not so much to ask for as they expand their modern rifle line.
 
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