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    Well fellas that's the thing about Temp ratings on Canadian Army Sleeping Bags.
    I have used Outers alone and been -25*C in a bare slat wall cottage, the CF PolyPro Long johns set.
    It was damn cold in there till the bag warmed up and then it was all roses and Jumping Sheep,
    till the bladder insisted on a service call at 6 am.
    So the only way to rate sleeping bags like these is by relating personal tales with specific parameters and conditions.
    The rating are generally set out as listed below in a sliding scale.

    SLEEPING BAG TEMPERATURE RATINGS

    Temperature ratings were designed to give an idea of a sleeping bag’s performance. For many years, however, they became an area subject to marketing abuse. Recent efforts have been made to restore their validity.

    There is no global standard for measuring sleeping-bag performance.


    Upper Limit Highest temperature at which a standard adult male is deemed to have
    a comfortable night’s sleep without excessive sweating

    Comfort Limit Temperature at which a standard adult FEMALE can have a comfortable
    night’s sleep

    Lower Limit The lowest temperature at which a standard adult MALE is deemed to have
    a comfortable night’s sleep

    Extreme Limit A survival rating only for a standard adult female.
    After 8 hours, hypothermia may start to start set in.

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    "For many years, however, they became an area subject to marketing abuse." Mhm...

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    "For many years, however, they became an area subject to marketing abuse." Mhm...
    Yeah I know right,
    I estimate the temperature rating based on what ex and current CF members have related to me in the last 20+ years
    as well as other outdoor enthusiasts and my own experience.
    I did a search for formulas to get a 3 lbs of Down will insulate to -XX*C
    Cannot find one, There are some standardized tables that are country and continent specific and require paid memberships to access that information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Issue Surplus Inc View Post
    "For many years, however, they became an area subject to marketing abuse." Mhm...
    Yeah I know right,
    I estimate the temperature rating based on what ex and current CF members have related to me in the last 20+ years
    as well as other outdoor enthusiasts and my own experience.
    I did a search for formulas to get a 3 lbs of Down will insulate to -XX*C
    Cannot find one, There are some standardized tables that are country and continent specific and require paid memberships to access that information.
    Ive used a bivy bag and outer bag under the nice november stars of Gagetown. Lowest it dipped that week and a few was the minus teens. Body was fine, but boots were bricks haha.

    I wouldnt recommend just an outer to -25 under the stars. A bivy bag with inner and outer... sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedApe View Post
    Ive used a bivy bag and outer bag under the nice november stars of Gagetown. Lowest it dipped that week and a few was the minus teens. Body was fine, but boots were bricks haha.

    I wouldn't recommend just an outer to -25 under the stars. A bivy bag with inner and outer... sure
    I brought the Inner & Outer, no Bivy. my Brother had one of the MEC subzero rated poly bags that crunched down to the size of a soccer ball
    Well at omg thirty am I stripped off a bag so he could stop the teeth from chattering.

    But I still think y'all need to buy both bags, that's a shameless retailer plug hahaha

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    What about a SIZE. They are various lengths, or used to?
    BE CAREFUL what you say about a mans wife and kids, but be damned careful what you say about his bird dog!

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    The CF Bags are about 6 feet long and 34-36 wide at the shoulders.
    Tapers down to like 20ish inches at the feet.
    These are Canadian military used sleeping bags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Issue Surplus Inc View Post
    The CF Bags are about 6 feet long and 34-36 wide at the shoulders.
    Tapers down to like 20ish inches at the feet.
    These are Canadian military used sleeping bags.
    In 1963 sleeping bags were sized like every article of clothing I was issued. There were guys in my unit that would have to stitch two of those together just to fit inside!
    BE CAREFUL what you say about a mans wife and kids, but be damned careful what you say about his bird dog!

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    They are very warm. I was never a fan of the inner as I found tight and bulky. I would normally have my bivy bag, outer and use a Merlin 3 Snugpak as inner. warm and toasty on winter ex! Never had time for the cone head... I would just wrap a ranger blanker around my neck.

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    I came up with a bunch of Hoods for these Bags,
    So if you want to get a free Hood with your order of the sleeping bag
    mention that you're a Nut when you order!

    http://armyissue.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/4173

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