They didn’t tell us a specific date, but gave a window (within a month) of anticipated finished product.
Better than what others did and set a specific date, and don’t even come close to it.
Presales do suck, but in Canada’s small market, it’s the least risk involved for the retailers... so I can’t foresee it changing anytime soon.
What some can do (as you are choosing to) is to not purchase until they’re ready. You’re in your right to do so, but you’re being forwarned that if you’re eager to get one anytime ‘soon’ (like hazarding a guess of 2 or more years), then you’re only option is to preorder.
At least with ATRS you can rest knowing they’re not going to get you pumped up and excited only to let you down - again, and again... and again.
When they specific a timeline, it’s almost as good as a definitive date.