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    i could thread any barrel in 10 minutes with a tap and die set (not well or proper, but i could) ban tools?

    Why couldnt anyone go to home depot and make a device capable of firing a bullet? itd have terrible accuracy but itd be relatively easy. ban home depot?

    If they can prohibit an ar15 for this reason, they could prohibit any firearm for this reason. But unless if theyre going to ban every material capable of hitting a primer, the possibility will always be there. We can live in a world of marshmellows and gummybears. Realistically they need to pull their heads out of their asses and realize that legal gun owners arent breaking these laws, and criminals arent following laws. Theres an infinite amount of things people could do but that doesnt mean they ever would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonGTA View Post
    That is a stupid way of thinking
    No, giving them small victories here is a good thing. It stops them from impeding too far into reclassifications.

    People who are anti-gunners are idiotic wolves with short term goals in mind. As long as the wolf has something to eat, we can go about our daily lives and plan out how to kill the wolf and the pack.
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    John,

    Thanks for bringing this to our attention. The lab seems to be spit balling more and more as time goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conscript View Post
    No, giving them small victories here is a good thing. It stops them from impeding too far into reclassifications.

    People who are anti-gunners are idiotic wolves with short term goals in mind. As long as the wolf has something to eat, we can go about our daily lives and plan out how to kill the wolf and the pack.
    Absolutely not! This is death by 1000 cuts. Small victories is what they want to keep the ball moving towards the end goal of taking away ALL our firearms. We need to fight them every step of the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conscript View Post
    No, giving them small victories here is a good thing. It stops them from impeding too far into reclassifications.

    People who are anti-gunners are idiotic wolves with short term goals in mind. As long as the wolf has something to eat, we can go about our daily lives and plan out how to kill the wolf and the pack.
    There is a fallacy in this thinking, in that it is harder to regain ground than it is to hold ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conscript View Post
    No, giving them small victories here is a good thing. It stops them from impeding too far into reclassifications.

    People who are anti-gunners are idiotic wolves with short term goals in mind. As long as the wolf has something to eat, we can go about our daily lives and plan out how to kill the wolf and the pack.
    THIS seems like a common thinking back in the early and mid 1940s, unfortunately this thinking did not work out so well for a few million folks.

    As long as we are willing to keep tolerating the constant tightening of the noose the SFSS/RCMP lab rats have around our necks it is only a matter of time until we are done.

    The FRT system is an abuse of power in the first degree. Classification by looks or by what something "might be" is garbage. The laws are pretty clear in so far as things are what they are, not what they can be, so why (I know stupid question) do the lab guys continually get away with this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSE JR View Post
    Absolutely not! This is death by 1000 cuts. Small victories is what they want to keep the ball moving towards the end goal of taking away ALL our firearms. We need to fight them every step of the way.
    I disagree, it's clear the ones after our guns are not governed by common sense, they are after superficial bans like markings on a receiver, or messages on wood, etc.. Although they do affect some gun owners, generally the field is still unaffected.

    As long as we fight back in the other direction to put someone like Maxime in Ottawa, they will continue to go after small tit-for-tat victories that do not affect us as a whole. There needs to be some sacrifice for us to gain time to put someone in Ottawa who understands that we are NOT criminals, and petty prohibitions like the one above have just riled gun owners and people of intelligence to vote in the right direction.

    Speaking of which, you don't deserve to comment on this issue because you single handedly caused the whole Swiss Arms fiasco. If it weren't for people like you, we wouldn't be here in the first place, jackarse...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conscript View Post
    I take it as this way, there has to be a game of take and give. You have to feed the rabid anti-gunners with something, just so they can claim they're making grounds
    What needs to happen is that everyone needs to be reminded that this, our enjoyment of a diverse selection of firearms, is, always has been, and (hopefully) always will be, a hobby.
    We don't need guns. Anyone trying to convince 'someone' that we do is dooming our sport (the argument for whether or not our police forces even needs one is for another place, but certainly isn't one that should be forgotten in the rush to ban guns, ie. look at Britain).
    We need to convince the 'crazies' that we want our diversity of firearms like car people want their diversity of cars and bike people want their diversity of bikes, and hikers want their diversity of boots and painters want their diversity of paints, etc etc etc. The whole argument that firearms are dangerous needs to be dropped like the plague it is. More people die from reckless driving, riding, hiking (painting? in this country than ever die from firearms, but any ####### can get what they need for their 'hobby'. Do I have the statistics on this, no, but I'm sure they're guaranteed for at least 2 of the 4 'hobbies' I mentioned.

    We also need to very strongly remind the Liberals of how fiscally irresponsible it is for them to be doing this when the money needed to make this gun 'grab' effective (legislatively and enforcement wise) could be so much more effectively spent somewhere else. It's definitely not going to be cheap.
    How has the fiasco of the long gun registry been forgotten, for christ's sake?? And how in the hell is the public at large able to sit back at this blatant disregard for civil liberties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hokus Grey View Post
    There is a fallacy in this thinking, in that it is harder to regain ground than it is to hold ground.

    The grave is filled one shovelful at a time.
    You need a village or two to burn before you get enough fuel for the entire tribe to raise hell. This is how it was and always is.

    We can use prohibitions like this to educate and show people that none of this makes any sense. Without petty examples, you won't convince people that we are in grave danger.
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    Until they get rid of detachable box fed semi auto's, they haven't got anything.


    Always wondered how well a tiny dc motor clamped to the trigger guard, would work. Heck, even duct tape my Makita to my Tavor.... bingo bango, scary full auto! hmmm....


    It's just like CCW, in that if it was legal, none of us would bother ever doing it (too uncomfortable, expensive ect).

    Death by a thousand cuts, isn't too far off the mark.

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