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    I think decision has been made.
    They are just gauging where and how many votes they will loose.
    So I wasn't particularly accurate filling the last portion about my background...
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    QUESTION THREE:

    Should more be done to limit access to assault weapons? NO With an explanation:

    This very recent interpretation of "'assault weapon" is incorrect. Since the creation of such weapons in WWII, the term assault weapon has meant a fully automatic or select-fire rifle. This new interpretation is a self serving attempt by gun prohibitionists (Dianne Fienstein IIRC, during the Bill Clinton years) to re-write historical facts and proper industry terminology and the law it supported - the so called Assault Weapons Ban - was repealed/expired 15 years ago and never re-enacted since -because it had no effect and crime and was a poorly written law by people who knew almost no technical facts about firearms. So once again, I find this question is a loaded one, where a reasonable person who is not an expert in firearms must answer YES. It is an obvious and dishonest strategy.
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    QUESTION FOUR

    Where should we focus efforts to limit handguns? ILLICIT handguns

    What is likely to be the most effective? What might the consequences be for law abiding Canadians?

    Since the vast majority of crime is committed by criminals with illegally acquired and prohibited weapons, the obvious focus must be on illicit handguns and people that deal in them - gangs and organized crime. Leave already law abiding on over regulated citizens alone, and stop the scapegoating.
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    QUESTION SIX:

    Where do you believe efforts to limit assault weapons should be focused? ILLICIT FIREARMS


    What is likely to be the most effective? What might the consequences be for law abiding Canadians?

    Once again, the vast majority of crime is committed by criminals with illegally acquired and prohibited weapons, the obvious focus must be on illicit firearms. The politically charged misnomer "Assault Rifle" would only refer to illegally manufactured or altered-to-fire fully automatic firearms (which is a very very rare event) and people that deal in them - gangs and organized crime.
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    QUESTION SEVEN:

    With respect to limiting handguns, assault weapons, and other firearms in the illicit market, in which of the following areas do you think efforts should be focused? SMUGGLING (you can choose only one. Under OTHER I stated : Smuggling AND Theft represent the majority of IDENTIFIED crime guns.

    What strategies are likely to be most effective?

    Smuggling AND Theft represent the majority of IDENTIFIED crime guns, so go after that. Stop lenient sentencing of gang members and other 'firearms criminals', and people who steal guns from homes. Make property crime matter again!! Punish the very VERY few straw purchasers appropriately, as well as their clients. Bring back 'carding" and TAVIS squad to police in Toronto and other big cities, and stop caving in to accusations of racial bias. These programs worked and made the streets safer. They targeted gang members and individuals with criminal history and got illegal guns off the street!!
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    QUESTION EIGHT:

    Are there any other comments you would like to share with respect to limiting firearms?

    Stop disrespecting legal gun owners and politicizing gun control. It should be a very very simple issue based on facts. Legal gun owners rarely commit firearms offences. Guns are already very well regulated to the point where gun laws make little sense and even police and judges have difficulty understanding and interpreting them. Instead of focusing (for political reasons) on "gun crime/murder" a reasonable and logical person would be focusing on just crime/murder, starting with the most often used weapon or means. And that would NOT ber firearms, since Statistics Canada tells us "... Firearm-related violent crime accounted for 2% of all victims of violent crime in 2012, a proportion that has remained stable over the past four years. For the large majority (81%) of victims of violent crime, there was no weapon present during the commission of the offence.1 A weapon other than a firearm, such as a knife or blunt instrument, was present in 17% of violent offences.
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    Done as well. What a load of crap, could they be any more misleading?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sochi View Post
    I think decision has been made.
    They are just gauging where and how many votes they will loose.
    So I wasn't particularly accurate filling the last portion about my background...
    Smoke and mirrors to make folks feel included

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    Quote Originally Posted by nowarningshot View Post
    The result is pre ordained. They are phishing to see how big the backlash. Dont give the bustards the satisfaction.

    Remember the instructions from Turdeau were on how to accomplish this, not whether.


    Nothing but a big ostensible media farce to give the false impression that they (the Liberals) are actually listening to Canadians or give a rats ass what we think concerning a course of action (disarmament) that was decided on 5 decades ago.

    Like the old adage goes: THE FIX IS IN

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    THE REST:

    In order to allow for more detailed analyses of Canadians' responses, we are interested in your background. Answering the following questions is optional. Prefer not to say

    How old are you? 45-54


    In what province or territory do you live? ONT


    Which of the following best describes your residence? Urban


    Which of the following best describes your ethnicity? Prefer not to say


    Do you currently own a firearm? Prefer not to say

    Do you currently own a handgun? Prefer not to say
    The Liberal Philosophy
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