Action: Public Safety of Canada Online Gun Ban Consultation

[lupothebutcher]

anyone notice this at the end:

October 22 to end of November 2018 In-person stakeholder engagement sessions will be taking place across the country By invitation only - they want to make sure that they only have stakeholders; anti-gun groups, police chiefs, liberal politicians, women's groups, experts who've never seen a gun, cbc reporters, people to pitch the right questions.....Don't want to clutter the place up with firearm owners and pro-gun groups who have no knowledge of the situation and are far to biased.....

[Hermid]

October 22 to end of November 2018 In-person stakeholder engagement sessions will be taking place across the country By invitation only - they want to make sure that they only have stakeholders; anti-gun groups, police chiefs, liberal politicians, women's groups, experts who've never seen a gun, cbc reporters, people to pitch the right questions.....Don't want to clutter the place up with firearm owners and pro-gun groups who have no knowledge of the situation and are far to biased.....

Don't forget fudds.

[Angelb]

My part is done and link has been shared... i would like to ask all military, veterans, recruits ... and other forces to join and fill out this poll.

[JoeShmow]

October 22 to end of November 2018 In-person stakeholder engagement sessions will be taking place across the country By invitation only - they want to make sure that they only have stakeholders; anti-gun groups, police chiefs, liberal politicians, [b]women's groups[\b], experts who've never seen a gun, cbc reporters, people to pitch the right questions.....Don't want to clutter the place up with firearm owners and pro-gun groups who have no knowledge of the situation and are far to biased.....

Shouldn't women groups be pro-guns?

[MustangFrank]

What a Farce. Basically every question asked how the government could ban handguns or semi auto rifles now called assault weapons based on one definition they managed to dredge up. We all know where that consultation is going. Wait for it. The majority of Canadians are in favour of more controls on firearms. They won't differentiate between illicit as they phrase it or legal ones of course.

[victor16]

Done.

[victor16]

Feel free to cut and paste this into your other social media platforms for distribution. Feel free to edit. Cheers.

Here is our opportunity to provide feedback to the government regarding firearms. The questions they posed are quite interesting. It seems to be written to generate fear and a response to restrict/ban guns. Using the US definition of assault weapon when they know full well that in Canada, assault weapons are fully automatic and have been prohibited for decades. I let them know that this is very disingenuous and may fool the average Canadian but not law abiding gun owners. This is our chance to let the government know we know legal gun owners are not the problem. For instance, banning street checks and police officers from schools in Toronto now allow gangsters to have a free for all recruiting at schools and emboldened them to pack their guns as police can no longer stop and check them. The shootings increased in Toronto after the politicians pandered to Black Lives Matter and other special interest groups and now they want to make the rest of Canada and law abiding gun owners pay. Speak up now or be prepared to turn in your guns when the government bans them. Please pass this link to anyone you think will be impacted. Thanks.


https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/c.../index-en.aspx

[Kveldulf]

Done. Filled in every comments box with the best reasoning of which I am capable. Do you think anyone will read my comments?

[.X.]

done

[jk33]

Completed:

Should more be done to limit access to handguns?

Yes
No (Checked)
No opinion

If yes, what should be considered?

(Commented) Only for handguns obtained illegally.

The US Department of Justice has used the following description: “in general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire.” Footnote1

Should more be done to limit access to assault weapons?

Yes
No (Checked)
No opinion
If yes, what should be considered?

(Commented) I would like to comment here on what you are using from the US Department of Justice description of an "Assault Weapon" as it is very misleading when trying to be applied to Canadian firearms because as per Canadian Law the maximum magazine capacity for the firearms you are trying to pass as "Assault Weapons" are limited to 5 rounds of ammunition and as such do not meet the US Department of Justice description of an "Assault Weapon". This is a very common and very misleading description used all the time in the press and other media types in Canada and I am disappointed you have stooped to use it here in the questionnaire.

Where should we focus efforts to limit handguns?

Legally-owned handguns
Illicit handguns (Checked)
Both legally-owned handguns and illicit handguns
Neither legally-owned handguns nor illicit handguns
No opinion

What is likely to be the most effective? What might the consequences be for law abiding Canadians?

(Commented) The most cost effective solutions are to ensure the existing criminal laws are enforced to the fullest extent for crimes committed of any type with any type of object from a baseball bat to an illegally obtained firearm or no object at all.
We have just had a case in Canada where a man was stabbed to death, "murdered", with a knife and is not even going to jail! Where is the justice in this? Where is the deterrent for criminals in this?
The existing firearms laws that already exist are already very stringent for the law abiding Canadians who have passed all the training, all the background checks and met all the other requirements to legally own firearms of either classification, non-restricted or restricted and granted the appropriate license to do so.
Resources need to focus on the root cause of the criminal/gang problems that are creating all this focus on the objects being used in these increasingly common crimes. IE Social, economic and mental health issues are the root of the problems along with lack of enforcement and punishment for crimes committed for those who choose not to abide by the current laws.
Creating more stringent firearms laws that only hinder licensed law abiding firearms owners is going to do nothing to combat the current state of criminal activity being seen in our major cities.

Where do you believe efforts to limit assault weapons should be focused?

Legally-owned firearms
Illicit firearms (Checked)
Both legally-owned firearms and illicit firearms
Neither legally-owned firearms nor illicit firearms
No opinion

What is likely to be the most effective? What might the consequences be for law abiding Canadians?

(Commented) The most cost effective solutions are to ensure the existing criminal laws are enforced to the fullest extent for crimes committed of any type with any type of object from a baseball bat to an illegally obtained firearm or no object at all.
We have just had a case in Canada where a man was stabbed to death, "murdered", with a knife and is not even going to jail! Where is the justice in this? Where is the deterrent for criminals in this?
The existing firearms laws that already exist are already very stringent for the law abiding Canadians who have passed all the training, all the background checks and met all the other requirements to legally own firearms of either classification, non-restricted or restricted and granted the appropriate license to do so.
Resources need to focus on the root cause of the criminal/gang problems that are creating all this focus on the objects being used in these increasingly common crimes. IE Social, economic and mental health issues are the root of the problems along with lack of enforcement and punishment for crimes committed for those who choose not to abide by the current laws.
Creating more stringent firearms laws that only hinder licensed law abiding firearms owners is going to do nothing to combat the current state of criminal activity being seen in our major cities.

With respect to limiting handguns, assault weapons, and other firearms in the illicit market, in which of the following areas do you think efforts should be focused? [check all that apply]

Theft from businesses and individuals
Straw purchasing (i.e., a legal purchase that is then diverted to the illicit market) (Checked)
Smuggling (Checked)
None of these – no efforts are required
No opinion
Other [Please indicate below]

What strategies are likely to be most effective?

(Commented) Enforcing current criminal laws and increasing and enforcing penalties for such crimes.
Provide law enforcement agencies with more resources to combat the smuggling and straw purchase crimes being committed and work with the law abiding firearms owners, who are just as concerned about keeping our communities safe.

Are there any other comments you would like to share with respect to limiting firearms?

(Commented) Creating more firearms laws or limiting firearms more than what they already will only affect law abiding licensed firearms owners as Bill C-71 does and will not be effective in combating the increasing crime problems being faced in our major centers that you and I are trying to reduce and will only restrict and negatively affect the law abiding firearms owners in this country even more than we are.