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[Mik123]

Bit heavy for a 223

[griffin86]

Mine as well. Just wondering why 3 or 5 makes a difference. I see people say this all the time and I fail to understand how this is relevant. If a gun shoots 1 MOA that means 1 MOA. If it's 3 MOA, then it's 3 MOA. I've never bought or built a rifle that was 1 MOA for the first 3 rounds, and then it became a 3 MOA rifle for the next 2 rounds, and then if you shoot a 10 round group it's a 4 MOA rifle.

The reason is people shoot a 3 round group, have one tight group and claim it shoots 1 MOA. They say the rest of the groups were poor because of a flyer or wind or whatever cognitive dissonance they can think of.

If you want to read an excellent write up about it.

[Davy Crockett]

Mine as well. Just wondering why 3 or 5 makes a difference. I see people say this all the time and I fail to understand how this is relevant. If a gun shoots 1 MOA that means 1 MOA. If it's 3 MOA, then it's 3 MOA. I've never bought or built a rifle that was 1 MOA for the first 3 rounds, and then it became a 3 MOA rifle for the next 2 rounds, and then if you shoot a 10 round group it's a 4 MOA rifle.

I think the thought process is more shots = larger sample size = more precise average. Just better stats really, helps weed out the outliers. There are some who advocate for 10 shot groups in accuracy testing.

[KePet]

I think the thought process is more shots = larger sample size = more precise average. Just better stats really, helps weed out the outliers. There are some who advocate for 10 shot groups in accuracy testing.

Oh, I get all that. But telling us that the accuracy wasn't as good because they shot 5 shot groups and not 3 shot groups? If it's a 3 MOA gun, just tell us it's a 3 MOA gun. The 5 shot groups tell us more than 3 shot groups about the accuracy potential of the rifle - yes, definately. But 3 shot or 5 shot is not an excuse for a lack of accuracy. Heck, why don't we just go to 1 shot groups and every rifle will be MOA.

Barrel break-in. This may affect your accuracy. I've read it all, and I'm still not sure I believe it - but that's just me. Light bullets in a tight twist - yep, that may affect accuracy. (although this is more an issue with heavy bullets in a slower twist. I'm not sure about "overspinning" the bullet - but again that's just me) Using cheap bulk ammo, instead of match grade - definately. But when talking about accuracy 3 or 5 rounds shouldn't make a difference if you are being honest. personally I use 5 rounds minimum. And try to do at least 5 groups so that I'm confident in my results.

[RWA-Technical]

From our testing the rifle is 2moa, your mileage may vary depending on ammo used. American eagle printed larger groups than ppu for example even though both were 55gr.