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    Yes they Do, 20 million illegal immigrants milking the system and a Trillion dollar deficit. Now the Dems are for endless war. Trump won the election handily promising to bring the troops home, renegotiate terrible trade agreements and build the wall. Make it happen Don
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    Quote Originally Posted by parkervh View Post
    Yes they Do, 20 million illegal immigrants milking the system and a Trillion dollar deficit. Now the Dems are for endless war. Trump won the election handily promising to bring the troops home, renegotiate terrible trade agreements and build the wall. Make it happen Don
    Bring the troops home: IOW bail on the mess they made and have all the soldiers who have died in the GWOT have died in vain (justifiable or not that is what it is)
    Renegotiate trade: NAFTA 2.0 has been better for Canada than it was for the US. All the agreements in that which we made were pretty much everything that was agreed in the TPP which Trump pulled out of (which for everyone else involved actually made the CPTPP mostly palatable once they yanked all the US parts out). He actually made it worse for their side as he hamstrung their negotiators because as long as he got what he wanted they were willing to capitulate on everything else. (this is coming from a friend who is a trade analyst in Global Affairs so you can't get much closer to the source)

    The wall? Yeah I doubt you will see the first hole dug in the next 5 years and while at it they will need to fix their reliance on these undocumented workers, back in the day Bush 1 tried to do the same thing but the Orange lobby pointed out the typical American doesn't want to pay $10 for a bottle of OJ and how would that reflect in their vote next election. Compound that with the rest of their agricultural economy as it is probably worse now... The irony is that the people who voted for him are the ones who are being hurt the most by it.

    And let's not talk to the coal miners who are starting to realize that those jobs are not coming back (which to be fair they were stupid in the first place as the industry has been slowly collapsing over the last 30 years and Trump made it even better when he started having peener fights with China which coincidentally was one of the biggest buyers of US coal).
    Last edited by rikkards; 01-09-2019 at 09:40 AM.

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