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    Hope youre right my friend !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron SS View Post
    It would be, if it was true. Buts it not true, so you don't need to be sad.

    Toronto has 58 Federal ridings. Montreal has 20. 78 Ridings is less than half of what is needed for a majority.

    Even if you added Greater Vancouver and the whole Fraser Valley (+32) you are only at 110, which leaves you well short of the 170 you need for a majority.
    Québec and Ontario hold 199 seats, 29 mores that what's needed for majority, those numbers are scary.
    I doubt the CPC will find a leader to get a majority but i also known that as long Trump is Prez, the leftists of Kanadea will have to govern with a minority. JP.

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    The province of Quebec just gave the boot to the provincial Liberal party in our ladt provincial election. And when I mean gave the boot, we gave them their worst seat count in like 60 years IIRC.

    So, yeah, I think those polls are as good as those one in the usa that stated that Hillary had 98% chance of winning.

    Quebec has made a turn right that hasn’t been seen since Duplessis in the 50´s. Same thing with Ontario with the Provincial Conservatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caramel View Post
    Québec and Ontario hold 199 seats, 29 mores that what's needed for majority, those numbers are scary.
    Quebec and Ontario are a very different affair then merely Toronto and Montreal.

    Why are those numbers scary? 61.5% of Canada's population gets 59% of the seats. Ontario and Quebec are actually UNDER represented compared to the ROC.

    Look at a political map of the election results of Ontario and Quebec. Very little liberal support outside of the cities.

    Quote Originally Posted by m_falafel View Post
    The province of Quebec just gave the boot to the provincial Liberal party in our ladt provincial election. And when I mean gave the boot, we gave them their worst seat count in like 60 years IIRC.

    So, yeah, I think those polls are as good as those one in the usa that stated that Hillary had 98% chance of winning.

    Quebec has made a turn right that hasn’t been seen since Duplessis in the 50´s. Same thing with Ontario with the Provincial Conservatives.
    Excellent point. Now remind me what happened exactly happened in the last Ontario election? Right, the Liberals were crushed so completely that they didn't even qualify for party status.

    Gun owners need to take a deep breath, pull their heads out of their own tired rhetoric and look at what is really going on. The two biggest provinces and two of the biggest liberal strong holds just absolutely gutted their liberal parties. Both the NDP and the Peoples party are set to siphon off large numbers of disaffected votes from the Liberals. None of the PPC candidates are likely to win, including Bernier himself. All of this bodes well for Conservatives in a first past the post election.
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    Even if you are correct, it is no excuse to rest on our laurels. The danger is still very high. Doug Ford won partly because of his "no-nonsense" persona, and had it been Patrick Brown at the helm, I think it would have been a different story. Now we have to deal with Andrew Scheer and Max, who's coming across as a stronger leader, which is not good for the CPC.

    One thing is for sure. This election is the most wildcard election we've had in decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnage View Post
    I can't find anyone that I know that is going to vote for the Libs. And I work at a unionized worksite in North Vancouver. Maybe its just east of the prairies and major cities to worry about.
    Don't worry. The liberals have their ballot box stuffers in place already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron SS View Post
    Both the NDP and the Peoples party are set to siphon off large numbers of disaffected votes from the Liberals. None of the PPC candidates are likely to win, including Bernier himself. All of this bodes well for Conservatives in a first past the post election.
    I am not trying to dictate who anyone should vote for, though I would suggest that the PPC are going to siphon very few voters from the Liberals - it's much more probable that they'll be taking votes from the Conservatives, and I suspect the Green party getting more protest or disenfranchisement votes from the Liberals. The impression that I get is that the Liberals will be siphoning votes from the NDP as they drift further left.
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    In Quebec the real danger has shifted, the Bloc Quebecois is gaining force and if they regain half the seats they had before, they will be draining it from the conservative party.
    I doubt the CPC will find a leader to get a majority but i also known that as long Trump is Prez, the leftists of Kanadea will have to govern with a minority. JP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karnage View Post
    I can't find anyone that I know that is going to vote for the Libs. And I work at a unionized worksite in North Vancouver. Maybe its just east of the prairies and major cities to worry about.

    The major cities are the problem, the majority of city folk love their socialism and starbucks. These are the skinny jean trendy folk that cant think outside the box because their concert jungle has all their ammenidies and they dont have to engage their brains..it will be an interesting election in oct.
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    I hope more lieberals wake up to this BS
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