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    Quote Originally Posted by scout_289 View Post
    CMHA.
    Habitat for Humanity.
    Food Banks.

    ........ better yet, volunteer your time and let them know that you are a gun owner and are concerned about root causes.

    If 100,000 of us did that the anti movement would be beside itself wondering how to attack lawful gun owners.
    So much this and let your MP and MPP know this as well. This may be a great opportunity for a fundraising shooting competition at a local range. Let the media know and see if they are willing to show up.

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    Double post

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    In Liberal, Anti and Media language

    Acting concerned = Admission of guilt

    Taking disadvantage kids shooting = Training and indoctrination of criminal and violent behavour

    Quit trying to make excuses and apologies for us and our hobby.

    That is extremely counterproductive.

    The LGBTQ community was smart enough not to suggest activities for kids etc and things like that until the acceptance level
    was high enough to prevent their opponents and the media from picking low hanging fruit.

    We have to be very concerned not only with the optics as we see them but how they can be perverted and twisted against us.
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    Mental illness does not necessarily lead to gun violence or any other form of acting out. I accept that.

    The conundrum is that everyone who commits an act of gun violence is, by definition, mentally ill on some level. Normal, well adjusted, socialized individuals with good anger management skills do not do harm to others unless provoked beyond the tolerance level of a "reasonable person".

    That is borne out by the fact that courts at times find perps "not criminally responsible" because their mental state has gone so far the wrong way that they didn't even realize that they were doing bad things.

    Therefore I support mental health issues screening and provision for self reporting with robust legal protection which exist today but are buried in legalese. Time to get it out in the open, clearly codified and educational material embedded in our training programs for (R)PAL.
    Let's follow the USA example: https://project2025.afsp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Toolkit_Safe_Firearm_Storage_CLEARED_508_2-24-20.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikkards View Post
    So much this and let your MP and MPP know this as well. This may be a great opportunity for a fundraising shooting competition at a local range. Let the media know and see if they are willing to show up.
    And if they don't show up, out them for bias and build a database to support our legitimate claims of discrimination on the basis of political correctness. Next time the Liberals come after our guns we can put some meat to the claims of media spin.
    Let's follow the USA example: https://project2025.afsp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Toolkit_Safe_Firearm_Storage_CLEARED_508_2-24-20.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAAC View Post
    An important thing to note in this study is the numbers of non gun owners who voted against bans.

    Granted, many might be friends and family, but I think the generation that is afraid of guns is dying off. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's true.

    The current generation does not fear guns. They have grown up with video games, YouTube and other influences that have disrupted the narrative. They better understand that crime causes crime. Poverty brings crime. Drugs bring crime.

    To me, that's the most revealing part of this study. The anti narrative is the narrative of the radical left. They are losing the mainstream. That's good news, because politicians get elected by the middle, not the fringes.
    This is very true. good post

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    The report proper if you want to read it:

    https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/r...crm-dlg-en.pdf

    And the juicy chart that gives us all a bit of hope that perhaps, just perhaps, on this one day, common sense might play a role on this issue:

    Grammar is like personal hygiene - you can ignore it if you like, but don't be surprised when people make assumptions about you.

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    We are at a crossroads.

    It's either this ht tps://afsp.org/nssf-afsp-partnership/ and the USA is tree years ahead of us on it.

    Or this h ttp://www.cufoa.ca revitalize this dormant organization, donate like heck and swamp them with membership applications.
    Let's follow the USA example: https://project2025.afsp.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Toolkit_Safe_Firearm_Storage_CLEARED_508_2-24-20.pdf

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    Amazing that with 81% opposed the MSM is spinning this as if the country is divided on the issue.
    Fan of Browning Hi-Powers and both S&W and Colt revolvers

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplinker View Post

    "In contrast, most questionnaire respondents (representing a self-selected group of Canadians) were opposed to a ban."


    Exactly what does 'self selected' mean? Because it sounds like they're spinning it as 135000 responses that aren't representative of democracy.
    Meanwhile, a 1,000-person poll repeated on CBC is taken as gospel, even when they have a track record of bias... Like before the last ON and PQ elections.
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